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Re: [TenTec] Corsair II tuning

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Corsair II tuning
From: Greg S via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 21:10:05 -0400
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....Is this the model whereby one must have the switch in reverse in order to 
operate in USB as well?...my memory fades.
Greg KC8HXO 

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> On Aug 26, 2018, at 18:47, MadScientist <dukeshifi@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 160 meters, the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) adds to the 5.8 MHz crystal to 
> produce 10.8 to 11.3 MHz. The  the 9.0 MHz IF is subtracted from this signal 
> to receive the incoming signal (2.3 to 1.8) MHz. On this band, as the PTO 
> frequency goes up, the TX/RX frequency goes down.
> 
> On 80 meters, the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) adds to the 7.5 MHz crystal to produce 
> 13.0 to 12.5 MHz. The  the 9.0 MHz IF is subtracted from this signal to 
> receive the incoming signal (4.0 to 3.5 MHz). On this band, as the PTO 
> frequency goes up, the TX/RX frequency goes down.
> 
> On 40 meters, the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) adds to the 11.0 MHz crystal to 
> produce  16.0 to 16.5 MHz. The  the 9.0 MHz IF is subtracted from this signal 
> to receive the incoming signal (7.5 to 7.0 MHz). On this band, as the PTO 
> frequency goes up, the TX/RX frequency goes down.
> 
> On 30 meters, the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) adds to the 13.99 MHz crystal to 
> produce 18.99 to 18.49 MHz. The  the 9.0 MHz IF is subtracted from this 
> signal to receive the incoming signal (9.99 to 9.49 MHz). On this band, as 
> the PTO frequency goes up, the TX/RX frequency goes down.
> 
> On 20 meters, the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) subtracts from the signal to convert 
> the 14.0 to 14.5 MHz to the 9 MHz IF.  No band crystal is used.  On this 
> band, as the PTO frequency goes up, the TX/RX frequency goes down.
> 
> On 18 meters (incorrect marking for 17 meter band), the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) 
> could go either way because the crystal frequency is incorrectly marked in 
> schematic. I don’t know its frequency so cannot calculate its tuning 
> direction on this band.
> 
> On 15 meters, the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) adds to the 6.99 MHz crystal to 
> produce  11.0 to 11.5 MHz. The  the 9.0 MHz IF is added to this signal to 
> receive the incoming signal (20.99 to 21.49 MHz). On this band, as the PTO 
> frequency goes up, the TX/RX frequency goes down.
> 
> On 12 meters, the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) adds to the 10.5 MHz crystal to 
> produce 15.5 to 16.5 MHz. The  the 9.0 MHz IF is added to this signal to 
> receive the incoming signal (24.5 to 25.0 MHz). On this band, as the PTO 
> frequency goes up, the TX/RX frequency goes down.
> 
> On 10 meters position A, the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) adds to the 13.99 MHz 
> crystal (the same crystal used on to produce 30 meters) to produce  19.99 to 
> 21.49 MHz. The  the 9.0 MHz IF is added to this signal to receive the 
> incoming signal (27.99 to 28.49 MHz). On this band, as the PTO frequency goes 
> up, the TX/RX frequency goes up.
> 
> On 10 meters position B, the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) adds to the 14.49 MHz 
> crystal to produce  19.49 to 19.999 MHz. The  the 9.0 MHz IF is added to this 
> signal to receive the incoming signal (28.49 to 28.999 MHz). On this band, as 
> the PTO frequency goes up, the TX/RX frequency goes up.
> 
> On 10 meters position C, the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) adds to the 14.99 MHz 
> crystal to produce  19.99 to 20.49 MHz. The  the 9.0 MHz IF is added to this 
> signal to receive the incoming signal (28.99 to 29.49 MHz). On this band, as 
> the PTO frequency goes up, the TX/RX frequency goes up.
> 
> On 10 meters position D, the PTO (5.0 to 5.5 MHz) adds to the 15.49 MHz 
> crystal to produce  20.99 to 21.49 MHz. The  the 9.0 MHz IF is added to this 
> signal to receive the incoming signal (29.49 to 29.999 MHz). On this band, as 
> the PTO frequency goes up, the TX/RX frequency goes up.
> 
> In all cases, the counter simply corrects its preset to give the correct 
> readout. An analog dial would need a dual scale to work with this scheme. The 
> only difference is that the knob goes the opposite direction on the higher 
> bands than on the lower bands.
> 
> 40 meters SHOULD tune the same direction as 160…
> 
> One other error in the schematic is that the local oscillator is shown 
> connected directly to the FET power supply line (regulated as well) and 
> bypassed to ground via a 0.01 uF capacitor. This can’t work…
> 
> Gary
> W0DVN
> 
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Duane - N9DG via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A test that would be interesting to see is if the behavior of how the CW 
>> signals tune behaves the same way when the mode switch is set to SB-N and 
>> then SB-R. They should behave differently from each other, one should tune 
>> like you expect CW to tune. And the other the way you now see CW tune.
>> 
>> If SB-N and SB-R behave as expected then there's a very good chance that one 
>> of the connections between the Mode switch and DSB board is not making the 
>> needed connection when in CW mode. In any case it would be well worth the 
>> time and effort to check the interconnection wire connections between the 
>> Mode switch and the DSB board.
>> 
>> After looking at the block diagrams and schematics it looks like that CW 
>> should tune as if the radio is in CW-N, if the mode is set to CW-R it should 
>> tune the opposite way, and the way you are describing.
>> 
>> So the suggestion that the problem is in the Double Sideband Board (DSB), or 
>> the wiring to it, I think is correct. But it should be noted that in the 
>> Corsair II there is just one crystal that is placed above and below the IF 
>> filter passband by capacitor that is switched into the BFO oscillator 
>> circuit by the positions on the Mode switch. And in the case of the CW 
>> tuning the wrong direction is because that crystal is not running at the 
>> right frequency.
>> 
>> So the issue is not related to the PTO or the LO oscillator mixer boards.
>> 
>> Duane
>> N9DG
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Paul DeWitte <k9ot@yousq.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not sure how to explain my problem.
>>> 
>>> I have 3 corsair IIs. recently I got one out to give it some air time. It
>>> had been a while since it had been used.
>>> 
>>> When tuning in a signal on 40M I found that instead of turning the VFO
>>> CLOCKWISE to zero beat on a low pitch signal, I have to go down (counter
>>> clockwise) to get on frequencey. The offset tuning works the same way. I
>>> have to tune down to bring the signal up in pitch.
>>> That is exactly backwards of how TT radios work on 1.8 to 10 MHZ.
>>> 
>>> Everything else seems to be correct. The frequency readout seems  to be
>>> correct as you tune up the band.It has good rcv audio, and this is the only
>>> thing that I find wrong.
>>> 
>>> Is there  a wiring problem here? In looking at one of the others, I do not
>>> see any difference in wire routing.
>>> Can it be the PTO?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any replies,
>>> 73 Paul K9OT
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