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Re: [TenTec] 252Mo supply

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] 252Mo supply
From: Douglas via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Douglas <sparks06524@yahoo.com>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 13:12:58 -0800
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I'd not use a 2N3055 substitute for a pass transistor in the 252M supply. The 
2N3055 only has a collector current rating of 15 amps. There are better subs 
out there with higher ratings. I believe the original transistor used in these 
single pass transistor supplies was a 2N5301. It's collector current rating is 
30 amps.

It's available here:

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Central-Semiconductor/2N5301/?qs=Ypxpq5eNvNU0NwYSSi8qxw%3D%3D



The 252M supply can be adjusted fine for 12.1 V.
Perhaps you were warned against using this supply because it has no built in 
over-voltage protection. When that pass transistor shorts, the output can rise 
to something like 30 volts, really doing a job on your transceiver.

Ten-Tec originally sold an optional over-voltage protection crowbar circuit in 
a small external box. I've one in use with my 252M supply.

The 252 M(O) supplies do have a crowbar circuit for over CURRENT protection, 
the so-called electronic circuit breaker.

73,

Doug/WA1TUT


Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:37:14 -0600
From: Chris Howard w0ep <w0ep@w0ep.us>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] 252mo supply
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My bridge rectifier seemed to be ok.

But the big pass transistor was reading dead short
between collector and base.

I replaced that with another 2n3055 that I had on hand.
That seems to have done the trick.


Chris


On 2/9/2015 1:24 PM, Chris Howard w0ep wrote:
> 
> Thank you Ralph!
> 
> I hooked the Omni up to a Pyramid linear supply
> that I have here.  I can run up to about 10 watts
> and then the voltage sags enough to cause the frequency
> to change.  So, I am ok if I stick to lower power.
> 
> I'm going to dive into the 252mo supply and see
> what is what.
> 
> Do you think it would be better to get a switching-type
> supply?  Should I be worried about noise on the power
> line?
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On 2/8/2015 9:22 PM, Ralph Arnold wrote:
>> I had the same problem with my OMNI D  the PS is bad mine blew the Bridge
>> Rectifer and the 3055 Voltage Regulators were leaky  I also replaced the
>> electrolytic cap it was old  Now it works like a champ  Oh BTW check output
>> with a known good DVM and I also Scoped PS for clean power.(no 60 cy
>> ripple. Im an old USN Aviation Tech  KD8BTQ ---Ralph
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Chris Howard w0ep <w0ep@w0ep.us> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I was tuning up the antenna with my Omni-D yesterday
>>> afternoon and everything went completely dead.
>>> I was not high on SWR and not turned up to maximum power.
>>>
>>> Turning things off and on I was able to get the power
>>> supply meter light to come on, but nothing on the rig.
>>>
>>> I have the light in my SWR meter hooked up to the supply
>>> also, and that is not working.  I think the supply has
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> -- later --
>>>
>>> I jumper the "SW" ports of the connector, plugged in
>>> in the supply and fired it up.  Sure enough, the supply
>>> lights up but no output.
>>>
>>> Any advice before I dive in?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> w0ep
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:19:24 -0500
From: "Al Sirois" <alsirois@roadrunner.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] 252mo supply
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Thursday noontime, guys:

My discussions with Paul at T-T some time ago, told me NOT to use the 252mo 
supply with
the Jupiter or Scout. He said it doesn't keep the voltage about 12.1 VDC. 
The 252om is OK for the OMNI-A, B, C, D.

Al Sirois/N1MHC
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Chris Howard w0ep
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:37 AM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] 252mo supply


My bridge rectifier seemed to be ok.

But the big pass transistor was reading dead short
between collector and base.

I replaced that with another 2n3055 that I had on hand.
That seems to have done the trick.


Chris


On 2/9/2015 1:24 PM, Chris Howard w0ep wrote:
>
> Thank you Ralph!
>
> I hooked the Omni up to a Pyramid linear supply
> that I have here.  I can run up to about 10 watts
> and then the voltage sags enough to cause the frequency
> to change.  So, I am ok if I stick to lower power.
>
> I'm going to dive into the 252mo supply and see
> what is what.
>
> Do you think it would be better to get a switching-type
> supply?  Should I be worried about noise on the power
> line?
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 2/8/2015 9:22 PM, Ralph Arnold wrote:
>> I had the same problem with my OMNI D  the PS is bad mine blew the Bridge
>> Rectifer and the 3055 Voltage Regulators were leaky  I also replaced the
>> electrolytic cap it was old  Now it works like a champ  Oh BTW check 
>> output
>> with a known good DVM and I also Scoped PS for clean power.(no 60 cy
>> ripple. Im an old USN Aviation Tech  KD8BTQ ---Ralph
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Chris Howard w0ep <w0ep@w0ep.us> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I was tuning up the antenna with my Omni-D yesterday
>>> afternoon and everything went completely dead.
>>> I was not high on SWR and not turned up to maximum power.
>>>
>>> Turning things off and on I was able to get the power
>>> supply meter light to come on, but nothing on the rig.
>>>
>>> I have the light in my SWR meter hooked up to the supply
>>> also, and that is not working.  I think the supply has
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> -- later --
>>>
>>> I jumper the "SW" ports of the connector, plugged in
>>> in the supply and fired it up.  Sure enough, the supply
>>> lights up but no output.
>>>
>>> Any advice before I dive in?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> w0ep
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