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Re: [TenTec] TT 940 Power Supply

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] TT 940 Power Supply
From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 15:26:17 -0500
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Thanks Stuart for the confirmation.

In my configuration, once I lifted the ground strap between Neutral and Ground on the OUTPUT of the UPS being the duplex outlets, there is no continuity between Neutral and Ground. Again this is on the OUTPUT of the UPS and applies to all duplex outlets on that unit. I found that each duplex outlet did have the strap in place thus I had to remove all of them. Having done this, my noise dropped noticeably.

Now, on the input side of the UPS, yes at the breaker panel for the house the Neutral and Ground are tied together. But this is only, or should be only, at the breaker panel. Thus if one reads resistance between Neutral and Ground on any duplex outlet they will find or should find continuity. PLEASE do not try to measure resistance with power applied to any of the circuits. There may be some notable amount of AC voltage difference, depending on the IR drop of the wiring and associated with any load existing on the Neutral.

73
Bob, K4TAX




----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Rohre" <rohre@arlut.utexas.edu>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TT 940 Power Supply


As a follow up to Bob's comment about checking for continuity between safety ground terminal on an outlet and neutral; it is my understanding from current codes, written up in electrical trade magazines discussions; that the neutral is bonded at one place to the safety (green) ground wire, and that is at the breaker box, presumably at the entry to the facility.

Bonding in the UPS box seems counter to this practice, and certainly creates a loop between neutral and safety ground.

Often in practice we have found in our lab facility, multiple loops caused by bonding green safety ground to neutral in multiple boxes that may exist between the service entry and the ultimate site of the powered instrument. It caused bad noise problems such that I finally had a special feed conduit installed that was bonded at its source of power but was insulated on brackets until it reached the lab needing low noise A/D wiring. That finally met our noise spec. There was still continuity from neutral to safety ground, but we controlled where that singular bond was made.

-Stuart
K5KVH
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