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Re: [TenTec] Omni VI & SignaLink USB

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI & SignaLink USB
From: qdot22@gmail.com
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:40:11 -0700
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It's interesting that the Tigertronics unit does not support full FSK. That's 
why I went with the cheaper Bucscomm Rascal.

Rich, AA6VX

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> On Jul 10, 2014, at 2:15 PM, "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net> wrote:
> 
> My reference to input and output impedances and to transformers on the input 
> and output are from Tigertronics
> 
> As provided with the SignaLink USB  data sheet.
> 
> I  quote;
> "Radio In/Out Z:    600 Ohm (nom).  TX/RX Levels are fully adjustable for
>            compatibility with Hi-Z and Low-Z radio connections."
> 
> From SignaLink USB data sheet I quote:
> "Unlike some interfaces on the market, ALL SignaLink models COMPLETELY 
> isolate your computer from your radio.  This eliminates troublesome ground 
> loops and prevents hum and noise from degrading the signals.  The SignaLink 
> USB provides isolation through the use of audio transformers and a 
> relay-based PTT keying circuit."
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Brown" <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI & SignaLink USB
> 
> 
>>> On 7/10/2014 6:41 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
>>> Tigertronics i.e. SignaLink has transformers on the input and output 
>>> signals for isolation.
>> 
>> A transformer does NOT provide isolation to differential mode signals. It 
>> only blocks common mode signals. For example, audio voltage on both windings 
>> of a 1:1 transformer are equal, and no impedance is added to the 
>> differential circuit. In a 4:1 transformer, the voltages are proportional to 
>> the turns ratio, and the impedance looking into the transformer is equal to 
>> terminating Z multiplied by the square of the turns ratio.
>> 
>> Remember that "600 ohms" has not been used in pro audio for at least 40 
>> years. Output stages are low-Z sources, typically 100 ohms for pro products, 
>> 300 ohms or more for consumer stuff, and input stages are high impedance, 
>> typically 10K for pro products, 50K for consumer products. The impedance of 
>> a microphone is defined as 1/5 of it's recommended minimum load impedance, 
>> and a low-Z mic's output Z is typically on the order of 100 ohms. All 
>> commonly used ham mics are low-Z, wired unbalanced.
>> 
>> As you have described the schematic, with individual 10K in series with both 
>> the mic and line inputs, I agree there should be good isolation. Perhaps the 
>> schematic is not accurate?
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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