OH, that's a good point Carl, one I forgot.
I have never operated 6m in my life, but I have heard others mention that
the Eagle is a bit deaf on that band.
We'll add it to the list.
HERE IS A QUESTION TO YOU GUYS WHO HAVE AN OM7:
Is there band data available on the back panel?
That is convenient for driving all sorts of add-on devices.
The Eagle has none?
73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw
- K4TAX
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 2:23 PM
To: n4py3@earthlink.net; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Reasons to buy an OM7 instead of an Eagle
These are points that I also find correct and I agree with Carl's assessment
on performance.
73
Bob, K4TAX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Moreschi" <n4py3@earthlink.net>
To: "R. Eric Sluder" <resluder@yahoo.com>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
<tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Reasons to buy an OM7 instead of an Eagle
> That sounds like the RF gain was just set too high in the Omni VII. I
> have both radios here and I like the Omni VII much better. The Omni VII
> is more convenient to use the controls. It's also more sensitive for
> hearing weak signals on 6 meters.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
>
> On 7/9/2014 10:49 PM, R. Eric Sluder via TenTec wrote:
>> Nice response Rick.
>>
>> Having both radios I'll say the OM7 receiver isn't capable of dealing
>> with interference like the Eagle can do. Broadcast band interference on
>> 160 meters is a good example. Atmospheric noise (including lightning
>> pulses) are stronger in my OM7 verses the Eagle. It maybe because the
>> Eagle is a down converted receiver with a less broad front end whereas
>> the OM7 has a broader front end (20 Khz I believe) and is up converted,
>> plus the DSP isn't of the same vintage of the Eagle (just guessing).
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Eric
>> W9WLW
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2014, at 5:10 PM, "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP"<Rick@DJ0IP.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I was just asked off list for reasons to warrant spending the extra
>>> bread on
>>> an OM7 instead of an Eagle.
>>> Ha! I had to bite my tongue to keep from saying "none, there aren't
>>> any!"
>>> (hi)
>>>
>>> There are of course 2 or 3 minor reasons and I've created my list below.
>>> Perhaps someone else more familiar with the OM7 than I am can think of
>>> other
>>> reasons that I have forgotten.
>>> Grateful to any additional tips.
>>>
>>> (and to the OM who asked me this question, if you do not subscribe to
>>> the
>>> tentec group at contesting.com, send me another email and I will forward
>>> you
>>> any replies we get).
>>> ==========================================================
>>>
>>> Hi OM, (name withheld)
>>>
>>> You do realize of course that you have posed that question to a man in
>>> love
>>> with his Eagle! (hi)
>>> OK, but I will try and be objective on this.
>>>
>>> The Eagle's better receiver is really only noticeable in BIG contests
>>> where
>>> a good operator is willing to dive into the middle of the heaviest
>>> pile-up
>>> on the band to work whatever DX multiplier is under all the rumble.
>>> Apart
>>> from that, there is not a lot of difference in the two receivers.
>>> However
>>> when the going gets tough, the Eagle will outshine the Omni 7.
>>>
>>> I'll start with the only other negative of the OM7 over the Eagle: it
>>> has
>>> only one knob for AF and RF gain. Not the end of the world but separate
>>> knobs would have been better.
>>>
>>> And of course if you go backpacking, I'd rather carry an Eagle! (hi)
>>> Same applies for mobile operations.
>>>
>>> Now here is my short list of features the OM7 has which the Eagle does
>>> not:
>>>
>>> . A larger read out, including an S-Meter that you can actually see and
>>> read
>>>
>>> . Better interfacing to old amplifiers (or new Ameritron amplifiers) in
>>> CW
>>> mode. The OM7 has adjustable hang delay on the tail end of the signal.
>>> The
>>> Eagle does not have this feature and if you have one of these amps, you
>>> absolutely need it. With the Eagle, you must purchase the Model 318 Amp
>>> Keyer for a hundred bucks.
>>>
>>> . Interfacing to Ten-Tec full QSK amplifiers (dual-cable keying). The
>>> Eagle
>>> does not have this. If you don't have a full QSK linear with this
>>> keying
>>> loop circuitry, it doesn't matter.
>>>
>>> . A band scope (though it's not the greatest)
>>>
>>> . Larger heat sink on the back side for cooling the final transistors.
>>> You
>>> really do not need a fan unless you are running RTTY. The Eagle doesn't
>>> have this so it must rely on a fan. It is not terribly loud but it is
>>> audible.
>>>
>>> . Direct frequency entry keypad
>>>
>>> . Curtis mode A and B keying. It's fixed on the Eagle, but I have no
>>> idea
>>> which one. Somehow I never paid any attention to that stuff. I just
>>> key
>>> whatever they throw at me and it somehow seems to always work.
>>>
>>> . Two spare RCA phono plugs AND an internal provision to connect two
>>> coax
>>> cables to these to be used as connection for a pre-selector or noise
>>> cancelor.
>>>
>>> . A serial port.
>>>
>>> . Connection for the POD (the remote VFO knob). I sometimes miss this
>>> on my
>>> Eagle.
>>>
>>> . 2 antenna jacks
>>>
>>> . Ethernet connection
>>>
>>> . AUX RX (antenna) - an input for a receive-only antenna (uses one of
>>> the
>>> two ANT connections)
>>>
>>> . Adjustable bandwidth on SSB
>>>
>>> . Adjustable RX and TX equalizers
>>>
>>> . CTCSS for FM
>>>
>>> . Adjustable CW (keying) weighting
>>>
>>> . SPOT (for spotting in CW) - which I personally feel is worthless
>>>
>>> . Adjustable rise/fall time on CW. A fancy option but I don't feel it
>>> is
>>> necessary. The Eagle's CW signal is just fine.
>>>
>>> . FSK X Data (if you are into RTTY)
>>>
>>> . VFO Speed Shift which basically speeds up the tuning rate by a factor
>>> of 4
>>> when you turn the VFO knob real fast. Many people like this feature a
>>> lot.
>>>
>>> . A very comfortable software menu (probably the very best in the
>>> industry)
>>>
>>> . OmniRig support (very important for many 3rd party software programs)
>>>
>>> . A dedicated RIT/XIT knob (using the RIT on the Eagle is very clumsy)
>>>
>>> . And of course REMOTE CONTROL (over the Internet)
>>>
>>> That's all that comes to mind right now, but keep in mind that I do not
>>> own
>>> an OM7 and the last time I even saw or used one was in 2007. That was 7
>>> years ago. and my old grey cells "ain't what they used to be".
>>>
>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>>
>>>
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