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Re: [TenTec] Yamaha CM-500 boomset use with Orion II? <Jupiter>

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Yamaha CM-500 boomset use with Orion II? <Jupiter>
From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: k9yc@arrl.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:30:03 -0800
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John,

I didn't know your Dad, mostly because I was just finding my way around 
AES at the time, but he was a VERY well known and respected guy in the 
pro audio world, and I did see him at AES conventions then. This would 
have been late 70s and early 80s.

73, Jim K9YC

On 12/9/2011 12:07 PM, John wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Thanks for the reply.  I had known that Al Kahn had founded
> Electro-Voice.  I wish I had the chance to talk with him.  My dad was a
> huge electro-voice fan and he and his best friend from High School, Bart
> Locanthy, had both designed and built their  own sound systems, starting
> back then. .  When Bart Locanthy (of JBL and Pioneer)  came to visit
> after Dad had completed his last speaker enclosures, Dad was like a
> little kid because Locanthy just sat in the chair and smiled.  Talk
> about hams being taken up by their hobby.
>
> Anyway, Yes I like my Jupiter a lot.  And I do get complements on my
> audio using a Shure 444 but only after playing with the levels and
> balance until I got it right, to me at least.  I am in quandary
> regarding mikes.  I like the 444 and do get great reports on my audio.
> I also have a HCL-4 element mounted in an unknown mike.  I have gotten
> good reports with that mike when I was using it on my Kenwood but have
> not yet rewired it for the Jupiter.   After operating in several venues
> with headset and mike combos, including W1AW in Newington, and during
> Field Day, that also sounds good, so to speak..  What can I say. What
> else can I do.  I plan to re-plug (more properly) the HCL-4 mike,
> consider the new Heil cartridge, and probably get the Yamaha headset.
> THEN I can decide what works best for me.  Thank you for your suggestions.
>
> 73,
> John / WA1JG
>
>
> On 12/9/2011 1:51 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> On 12/8/2011 12:48 PM, John wrote:
>>> I have been considering the Yamaha Headset.  Any experience with  the
>>> Jupiter?  My thinking is that a headset and a foot switch (already
>>> working) would be more convenient than dragging around the desk mike
>>> as I do now?
>> Sorry, I sold my last Ten Tec transceiver several years ago (but still
>> use Titans and a Herc II). Ten Tec's audio inputs have always been
>> pretty good -- remember that Al Kahn, the engineer who founded the
>> company did so with his returns from the sale of Electro-Voice, one of
>> the finest pro microphone and loudspeaker companies on the planet at the
>> time. In general, just about any decent mic will work just fine with any
>> Ten Tec rig I've seen with the exception of a BALANCED professional
>> electret mic, which can't easily be made to work with ANY unbalanced
>> inputs.
>>
>> So I'd say, by all means go ahead, following the guidelines in my Ham
>> Interfacing Power Point slides.  And while there has been discussion of
>> using a pad (resistive attenuator), I'd be very surprised if it is
>> needed.  It was NOT needed with an FT1000MP, which has a very sensitive
>> mic input, and had be turned very close to zero with a CM500. But when I
>> did that for testing with a very good engineer and serious contester
>> listening only three miles away, he gave me a clean bill of health.
>>
>> One other VERY important point. With any mic like this, it's good to
>> keep it away from your mouth to avoid breath pops and bass boost. That
>> spacing will also reduce the need for a pad. I wear mine with the mic
>> about 2 inches above and 2 inches to the side of my mouth. Sound-wise it
>> would be fine at that spacing below the mouth, but you can't munch or
>> drink coffee with the mic down there, so I settled on the high and to
>> the side position. :)
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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