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Re: [TenTec] Omni 6 Logic Board Failure

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni 6 Logic Board Failure
From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 23:32:33 +0000
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Don, I encourage you to dig into the board and share whatever you find and
ask questions here on the reflector.  It would be great if someday we could
develop an Omni 6 logic board troubleshooting guide amongst the TT
community.

73, Barry N1EU

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Don Steele <dsteele@iowatelecom.net>wrote:

> Dave, I agree with you. I could have insisted they troubleshoot the problem
> further, but of course that is at my expense, and most likely will have the
> same end result. I'm going to put it on my bench and see what I can figure
> out, but I don't have a fully equipped service department either.
>
> Don
> NT0F
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <d.e.warnick@comcast.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni 6 Logic Board Failure
>
>
> >
> >
> > Actually, this shows that unless you insist, TenTec will NOT CHARGE YOU
> > FOR UNNECESSARY WORK!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Those techs are great. They have a lot of experience. What they are
> saying
> > is that the cost of going down to a specific component is greater than
> the
> > value of the radio if you have to pay a technician who has to at least
> > break even for his/her effort.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you choose to do it on your own, we all know the value of our own
> time.
> > $0.00 - it's what we love to do.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't take this wrong, I have 2 Omni VI+ and love them . I think they do
> > some things better than any other rig I've ever owned (and I've used a
> lot
> > of different stuff in 45+ years as a ham). If I get a sick logic board,
> > I'll be sick, too. I also just bought an Omni VII. Love it so far. Old
> > rigs are great, just be prepared to keep them running on your own, or
> lose
> > them to old age.
> >
> >
> >
> > It's known by the history of the Omni VI+, Paragon, etc, that if the
> logic
> > board gets sick, that's old technology and whether we like it or not, and
> > it's not economically sound to have TenTech fix it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > WA3F
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Neal Laugman" <neal.laugman@gmail.com>
> > To: tentec@contesting.com
> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:41:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni 6 Logic Board Failure
> >
> >> Did they narrow it down to an unobtainable chip, or just ...bad logic
> >> board? Some obsolete chips are hard to find, but
> >> still ...eventually...can be found
> >
> > Agree. I think I'd ask TT to get VERY specific about what part failed -
> > not just say it's a bad board thinking that sort of reply gets them
> > off the hook. This problem has wider ramifications about company policy
> > in general. (And I should say that I am not sure about which part we
> > are talking about, so my comments are of a general nature.)
> >
> > For instance: It's one thing to say that a rig like a
> > Triton has limited possibilities for final replacement because of
> > obsolete transistors or that it's hard and expensive to find
> > MRF458's for the Corsairs and others and quite another thing to trash
> > an entire radio because of a single failed non-RF chip - IMHO. One need
> > only to look at a VI brochure to see how the rig was marketed (i.e.,
> > with a computer ...)
> >
> > TT has always been up front with their engineering and schematics and
> > I wonder if something is changing. I MIGHT understand proprietary issues
> > with custom software are involved, but hey - if I end up having that
> > problem with my VI+ I will guarantee TT an earful :)
> >
> > So if this is the case, why should I abandon my VI+ to purchase a VII
> > only to have the same thing done to me again at some future time? Seems
> > like a good way for a company to loose customers; a company whose
> > followers have almost a religious devotion to them.
> >
> > --
> > Neal, NL7VL
> >
> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:22:42 -0500
> > "Dave Edwards" <kd2e@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Did they narrow it down to an unobtainable chip, or just ...bad logic
> >> board? Some obsolete chips are hard to find, but
> >> still ...eventually...can be found!
> >> ....Dave
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Carter" <k8vt@ameritech.net>
> >> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 7:30 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni 6 Logic Board Failure
> >>
> >>
> >> > On 1/13/2011 5:39 PM, Don Steele wrote:
> >> >> Well, my Omni 6 is in for repair, and Ten Tec has diagnosed a
> >> >> logic board failure. Due to the unavailable chips, this means a
> >> >> dead radio. I know this isn't the first and wont be the last of
> >> >> these great rigs to suffer this fate. Has anyone out there come up
> >> >> with a fix?? Please reply off line of any solutions.
> >> >
> >> > Let me respectfully ask why reply off line? I would think this topic
> >> > would be of general interest to many.
> >> >
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