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Re: [TenTec] New Firmware

To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Firmware
From: "Wayne Whitman" <wwhitman@fastmail.fm>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:40:08 -0600
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I understand Lee.  I had a new set of 4B twins back in 1972 and it was
the best setup I had since starting hamming.
Unfortunately they went the way of all things with an economic downturn
not too long after, so when I got back on the air many years later, I
bought the same set on ebay and had them restored.  Still working great!

I wish TT was more responsive on support too, but I know how it is in
small companies.

73,
Wayne
K4ELO

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:29 -0500, kc9cdt@aol.com wrote:
> Wayne,
> Yes, I do understand about the revenue issue...I also understand that
> these days with Internet...word travels fast and any bad news hurts
> SALES!
> 
> I anyone here does not believe that this firmware issues thing has not
> cost sales to TT dream on. I know 2 Hams personally that have bailed out
> because of it. 2 isn't a lot...but it's only the ones I know.
> 
> I still have mine, I guess I still beleive in them. And it's made in the
> USA!
> 
> Also, Maybe it's just me...if something is not finished let's get it
> DONE!
> 
> When I want to operate sure and simple...I just turn on the Collins or
> the Drake. They work very nicely. Actually I have done a lot of A/B tests
> with OII and my Sherwood R4C....the OII has lots more flexibilty and is
> really cool....but the R4Ccan usually hear anything the OII can (remember
> it has full front end roofing filters and was the leader until Orions
> came along!)
> The Drake twins will be here when I'm not. My wife can sell them or put
> them in the dumpster...I won't care then.
> 
> 73,
> Lee
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Whitman <wwhitman@fastmail.fm>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:16 pm
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Firmware
> 
> 
> 
> I hear you Lee.  Yes, I am still a loyal TT customer (4 TT rigs so far)
> and if they come out with something new, I may just pop for it.
> I do really love their rigs and my Orion II is an amazing transceiver. 
> I also have an Omni VII which is a great rig.
> Having worked for small engineering companies myself, I understand their
> problems.  Unfortunately, updating old firmware does not increase your
> cashflow or profitability.
> 
> I'm just trying to point out the difference in customer support between
> companies after all the B*******g going on here about delayed firmware
> releases.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> K4ELO
> 
> On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:03 -0500, kc9cdt@aol.com wrote:
> > Wayne,
> > I can see your points. While I do like the OII very much....I am not sure
> > what's going on down at TT.
> > Getting OII (and O) finished (for the most part) is certainly not a
> > priority there.
> > I beleive they are in geneal good people and do a good job of HW tech
> > support, but as to the firmware I think they are either not fully
> > qualified to do it..or just don't spend the time needed.
> > 
> > The list of issues in this release is rediculous. Yes, it has some good
> > features and the RF AGC is back finally (why did they change it anyways)
> > so I like the changes for the most part so far. But these common failures
> > should have been sorted? long time ago. 
> > A for effort, but comming up short. 
> > 
> > I like TT and I'm supporting TT (USA!) but I cannt believe Jack B. is
> > happy with this???
> > 73,
> > Lee, KC9CDT
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wayne Whitman <wwhitman@fastmail.fm>
> > To: TenTec List <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 8:35 pm
> > Subject: [TenTec] New Firmware
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > After reading about all of the problems, I think that I'll just sit this
> > one out.  I'm not a waterfall user anyway.
> > 
> > Now I know why I bought a Flex 5000A.  Bugs are fixed within hours, or a
> > day or two at the most in my experience.  Company president, tech
> > support, and chief software developer regularly monitor and contribute
> > to the refle
> ctor.  I have had the Flex for 4 months and the Orion II for
> > over a year.  Under all circumstances I have tried, the Flex equals or
> > outperforms the Orion II.  It's just a lot more flexible (no pun
> > intended) when it comes to operation, plus the filtering is nothing
> > short of amazing, and I can get a digital program, a logging program,
> > and a dx spotting program all working on CAT at once.  Being able to
> > accurately 'see' the pileup on dx and the stations responding on what
> > frequency is amazing.  Just point and click to go the last responder's
> > frequency.
> > There is absolutely no comparison to the Orion II display.  Plus the
> > majority of the code is open source so you can even pick from different
> > versions, or contribute yourself, or make your own.
> > 
> > Don't think I'm bashing TT here.  I have been a loyal TT customer,
> > purchasing three new transceivers in the last three years.
> > I'm just a convert to what is for me a better rig with much better
> > support.
> > 
> > Orion II may just be up for sale soon.  I'm thinking about it.
> > 
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > K4ELO
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>   wwhitman@fastmail.fm
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