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Re: [TenTec] Is this how it is done today?

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Is this how it is done today?
From: "Scott Rosenfeld [N7JI]" <ham@w3eax.umd.edu>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 17:45:13 -0400 (EDT)
List-post: <mailto:tentec@contesting.com>
Only once or twice have I had a deal which was then renegged upon (without 
consent of both parties) on the basis of "I found someone who was willing 
to pay me more" long after the proverbial handshake.


> Hi Chip,
> 
> I am sorry that you have encountered a "raw deal" on the TenTec thread. I
> have been a ham since 1961 and the accepted practice has always been the
> "word" of the individual. If it was stated that the gear was yours then
> it was yours - not someone later that may have offered more money for the
> highly sought after model 253 auto tuner. I have seen those tuners go for
> over $1000 at times. Last year I sold my 253 tuner for $350 with out
> knowing of its price capabilities. Three weeks after the sale I was still
> receiving calls from hams (some out of the country) that wanted to send
> well over $900 for that tuner. I simply told all that called that the
> deal had been made and the tuner was no longer for sale. --- Oddly I sold
> it to a ham in Texas but not the person you mentioned.
> 
> Again I feel sorry for the "raw deal" that was dealt you and please be
> assured that the manner in which you were confronted is by no means the
> "norm" but perhaps a "right wing" approach of making a buck.
> 
> Jim --- N8LUV --- MI
> 
> 
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:56:48 -0700 "WA6MHW" <wa6mhw@arrl.net> writes:
> > I have been a licensed ham since 1959 and after twenty years of 
> > inactivity I
> > have gotten the bug again. The Ten Tec reflector has been a 
> > wonderful source
> > for information and guidance as well as leads for equipment offered 
> > for
> > sale.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Yesterday (Thursday, 8/28/03)  Brian Hunsaker, W5YE of San Benito, 
> > TX posted
> > several Ten Tec items for sale  The listing clearly listed the 
> > selling price
> > for the items if purchased separately or together. It clearly stated 
> > that
> > shipping was extra and provided contact information. (The Original 
> > reflector
> > message and subsequent messages are shown below). I immediately 
> > responded
> > that I would like to buy the amplifier. I replied two ways. First I 
> > sent an
> > e-mail to W5YE@arrl.net (see below) I provided my full name, call 
> > sign and a
> > contact phone number. Second; I called the phone number listed and 
> > left a
> > PRIORITY voice mail. I gave my name, call sign and phone number at 
> > the
> > beginning and end of the message and stated that I wanted to buy 
> > the
> > amplifier.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Earlier Today (Friday, August 29, 2003), I received an 
> > acknowledgement from
> > W5YE confirming that I was purchasing the amplifier and asking for 
> > my
> > mailing address and preferred method of shipment. Brian Hunsaker 
> > also
> > stipulated where payment was to be sent. I immediately replied with 
> > the
> > shipping information and that I would send payment the same day 
> > (Friday).
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Later I received an e-mail telling me that he was selling the 
> > equipment to
> > someone else. I sent an e-mail reply and followed up with a phone 
> > call to
> > W5YE using the same number I left the voice mail on. Brian Hunsaker 
> > (retired
> > attorney and ARRL Volunteer Counsel -VC) stated that the reply he 
> > sent me in
> > NO-WAY meant that he had agreed to sell me the equipment. I told him 
> > I
> > believed we had an agreement. He further told me that he sent the 
> > same reply
> > to multiple hams and that everyone on the reflector knows this is 
> > how
> > equipment is sold. Since I will continue to look for an amplifier I 
> > am most
> > interested in knowing if Brian Hunsaker W5YE is right. Is this the 
> > Ham
> > Communities prescribed way for selling used equipment?  I really 
> > hope it is
> > not and that this is just an isolated case of an unethical person 
> > who
> > happens to be a ham.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Chip WA6MHW
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Message Trail Follows
> > 
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> > ----------------
> > 
> > I have the following in near mint condition:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 1. Hercules II (model 420)
> > 
> > 2. Auto Tuner (model 253)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Asking $1600 for both, or $850 per each, if sold separately.  Prices 
> > do 
> > 
> > not include shipping and packing.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > These units have been used very little over the past few years, and 
> > 
> > 
> > have always been in a "smoke-free", air conditioned environment.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Reply here, or contact:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Brian - W5YE
> > 
> > email: w5ye@arrl.net
> > 
> > Phone: (956) 357-0625
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > 
> > TenTec mailing list
> > 
> > TenTec@contesting.com 
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> > --------
> > 
> > Brian, I would like to buy the amp.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Chip Pardini WA6MHW
> > 
> > 925-989-8900
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > 
> > From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com 
> > [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> > On Behalf Of Brian Hunsaker
> > 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:57 PM
> > 
> > To: tentec@contesting.com
> > 
> > Subject: [TenTec] For Sale
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I have the following in near mint condition:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 1. Hercules II (model 420)
> > 
> > 2. Auto Tuner (model 253)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Asking $1600 for both, or $850 per each, if sold separately.  Prices 
> > do 
> > 
> > not include shipping and packing.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > These units have been used very little over the past few years, and 
> > 
> > 
> > have always been in a "smoke-free", air conditioned environment.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Reply here, or contact:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Brian - W5YE
> > 
> > email: w5ye@arrl.net
> > 
> > Phone: (956) 357-0625
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > 
> > TenTec mailing list
> > 
> > TenTec@contesting.com 
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> > ----------
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Hi, Chip. Good choice! It is really nice, and has not been used much 
> > 
> > 
> > since I purchased it a few years ago. Not long after buying it, I 
> > got 
> > 
> > interested in QRP, and low power CW.  The amp has been sitting in 
> > the 
> > 
> > shack with the tuner - not being used. I also failed to mention in 
> > my 
> > 
> > ad - I have the Ten Tec Rack Mount for these rigs.  It holds the 
> > Omni 
> > 
> > VI (which I plan to keep), the Hercules, and the Tuner - all in a 
> > 
> > "military/commercial-style" rack mount. It makes a very good 
> > looking, 
> > 
> > professional package, with the same paint scheme and lettering as 
> > the 
> > 
> > other Ten Tec gear. I won't have any need for it, after I sell the 
> > amp, 
> > 
> > and tuner. I will take $400 for the rack.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Please send me your address, and shipping preference (UPS, etc). I 
> > will 
> > 
> > check online for the shipping from here to you with UPS. If you 
> > prefer 
> > 
> > a different method of shipment, let me know. Here is my address for 
> > the 
> > 
> > check.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Brian Hunsaker
> > 
> > 131 Lakeview South
> > 
> > San Benito, Texas 78586
> > 
> >   (956) 357-0625
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks again for your reply, and interest. I want this Hercules to 
> > have 
> > 
> > a good home.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Hi Brian,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > The Hercules II is going to a good and loving home. I am just 
> > getting back
> > into Ham radio after almost 20 years of inactivity, got my ticket in 
> > 1959. I
> > recently purchased an OMNI VI option 2 and I am looking forward to 
> > getting
> > the amp. Does the power supply require 220 or can I run it on 110 
> > for a
> > while until I pull a 220 line? The rack sounds great and I would 
> > love to buy
> > it but I need to watch the budget right now. I still need to get a 
> > decent
> > antenna and more coax etc. As you know the hobby can get expensive.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I will get the check out today. If possible I would like the amp 
> > shipped via
> > FedEx ground.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Tnx & Best 73's
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Chip Pardini
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 4174 Quail Run Drive
> > 
> > Danville, CA 94506
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 925-989-8900
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Chip:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Sorry, but I had a buyer call me direct on the phone, and wants both 
> > 
> > 
> > units. I have agreed to terms with him. Besides, I did not have an 
> > 
> > opportunity to give you a final price, including freight as I didn't 
> > 
> > 
> > know your address, or method of shipment until, this email.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 73,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
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> > 
> 
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-- 
Scott Rosenfeld  ARS N7JI
541-684-9970  Eugene, OR  Land o' much rain
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