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Re: [RTTY] BARTG Sprint: RST and QSOs

To: alhanzl@comcast.net, woodr90@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] BARTG Sprint: RST and QSOs
From: "Kermit \(aka Ken\) via RTTY" <rtty@contesting.com>
Reply-to: ktfrog007@aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 15:21:23 -0500
List-post: <mailto:rtty@contesting.com>


As far as I can see the FCC rules are primarily concerned with the transmission 
of radio signals: frequencies for various services, power, modulation, etc., to 
ensure utility and avoid interference. Transmitting stations are issued call 
signs and are required to identify themselves.


The FCC is not concerned with reception except to specify transmitting 
parameters to ensure adequate reception for the service involved. Certainly for 
amateur radio they don't specify what constitutes a QSO or exchange of 
information. Individual services may additionally specify requirements for a 
proper exchange. Amateur radio does not, aside from contests.


The only essential pieces of information hams must exchange are call signs. 
Many QSOs lack any kind of signal report. Almost all FM repeater QSOs, for 
example. Many contests do not require signal reports, among them:


NAQP 
NA Sprints
CWops
ARRL Field Day

ARRL SS
ARRL VHF contests
CQ WW VHF
Makrothen
BARTG Sprint


No major award I'm aware of requires a signal report. The ARRL LoTW doesn't 
store a signal report. 


One thing I like about WSJT modes is getting accurate signal reports as part of 
most QSOs. Given the ubiquity of 59(9) reports on other modes, this is a 
refreshing change, but not a required one. Just a lagniappe.


73,
Ken, AB1J





-----Original Message-----
From: Al Hanzl <alhanzl@comcast.net>
To: Robert <woodr90@gmail.com>
Cc: Bob Burns W9BU <w9bu_lists@rlburns.net>; rtty <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 1, 2018 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [RTTY] BARTG Sprint

Interesting. 
For 48 years being a ham, I thought RST exchange was required to make a valid 
contact. 
I'll have to look up the history and origination of RST
Al
K2AL 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 1, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Robert <woodr90@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On the ARRL DXCC on line application there is no place to fill in RST ....
> 
> While RST maybe uploaded to LOTW, the FAQ doesn't list RST match as a
> requirement 
> https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/key-concepts#confirmation
> 
> 73 Robert W5AJ
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob Burns W9BU
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 6:48 AM
> To: rtty@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] BARTG Sprint
> 
>> On 1/29/2018 10:55 AM, Al Hanzl wrote:
>> There must be something in the FCC rules...
> I'm pretty sure that the FCC doesn't care how we acknowledge exchanges. 
> There's nothing in the rules mandating any kind of exchange format.
> 
> Bob...
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