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Re: [RTTY] Intel NUC, anyone?

To: "GL-DJ3IW-Web" <GL-DJ3IW@web.de>, "'Joe Subich, W4TV'" <lists@subich.com>, <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Intel NUC, anyone?
From: "Jim W7RY" <jimw7ry@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:01:38 -0500
List-post: <mailto:rtty@contesting.com>
But the twin peak RTTY filter is not available in data mode!

73
Jim W7RY


-----Original Message----- From: GL-DJ3IW-Web
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 10:06 AM
To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV' ; rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Intel NUC, anyone?

Hi,

of the newer ICOM rigs I had the 756-Pro3, IC7700 and now the IC-7851.
All of them allow to set (RX-) filter width down to 50Hz in the USB-(LSB-) Data modes.
It's all software.... Looking into the manual the same applies for the 7600.

73 de Goetz DJ3IW

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] Im Auftrag von Joe Subich,
W4TV
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Oktober 2017 14:44
An: rtty@contesting.com
Betreff: Re: [RTTY] Intel NUC, anyone?


> I'll have to look at my Kenwood TS-590SG to see if it's the same as
> the Icom.
It is not.  The new Kenwood (TS-590, TS-990 at least), Yaesu (since
FT-2000) and Elecraft (K2, K3, K3s, etc.) all permit using narrow
receive filters in DATA mode receive.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/27/2017 9:23 AM, Jim W7RY wrote:
> No...  But it is a HINT for radio and software manufactures....
>
>
> I'll have to look at my Kenwood TS-590SG to see if it's the same as the
> Icom. It's not interfaced with N1MM. It's on my test bench.
>
> 73
> Jim W7RY
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: David G3YYD
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 8:15 AM
> To: rtty@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Intel NUC, anyone?
>
> Is that a learning moment that says: Don't buy an ICOM?
>
> 73 David G3YYD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim W7RY
> Sent: 27 October 2017 13:13
> To: rtty@contesting.com; Joe Subich, W4TV
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Intel NUC, anyone?
>
> Agreed Joe!
>
> The Icom IC7300 is like this. I wish radio manufactures would allow AFSK
> when in RTTY mode with a simple menu change.
>
>
> There are ways to clean up an AFSK signal...
>
> But then again.... You're selling interfaces!
>
> 73
> Jim W7RY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Subich, W4TV
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 5:59 PM
> To: rtty@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Intel NUC, anyone?
>
>
>> Another is that some rigs have transmit filters that are only usable
>> in FSK mode
> Actually, that is receive filters.  Nearly all of the older Kenwood,
Icom
> and Yaesu rigs limited the narrow filter to "RTTY" (FSK) mode
only.  Icom
> still limits its "twin peak" filter to RTTY only.
>
> While many rigs are not as clean on FSK as they can be on AFSK, FSK is a
> whole lot cleaner than many AFSK signals (particularly those with
"Windows
> noises", hum, clipping products from over driving the mic preamp, RFI
> due to
> uncorrected common mode RF on the antenna leads, open ground
connections,
> audio from open microphones, etc.  With FSK it is easier to generate a
> "passable" signal for those who either do not care or don't know how to
> generate a clean AFSK signal.
>
> 73,
>
>     ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 10/26/2017 6:21 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 2:14 PM, David G3YYD <g3yyd@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> from FTDI. But why spend money on a box when you can just use AFSK
>>>> for a very small sum in making your own sound card to rig lead.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why do some hams use a straight key for CW?  A there are any number
>>> of keyers and interfaces that can produce perfectly timed CW using a
>>> keyboard for input.
>>
>> That's kindof a weak argument. Sending CW with a straight-key is a
>> skill (some would say an art). There's no special (operating) skill
>> involved in FSK vs. AFSK.
>>
>> The usual argument for FSK is that you don't have to worry about
>> getting the audio level right, and keeping the audio clean. Another is
>> that some rigs have transmit filters that are only usable in FSK mode
>> (IIUC).
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>      ~iain / N6ML
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