According to Pete's (N4ZR) post today, "{enter}WW3S WW3S" is suppose to break
the association from the CQ but it doesn't appear to be true in some cases.
Putting a C/R L/F {enter} in front of nearly all macros has been preached for
years and I believe most operators do this already.
I include a C/R L/F at the start of my macros and I still get spotted quite a
bit when S&P. Pete's post did make the suggestion of adding {enter} after the
trailing CQ in the message and although it will make the CQ message longer, it
might help keep S&P stations from being spotting so I think I will try it in
JARTS (if I can remember to do so). If there is a C/R after the CQ and the S&P
station sends C/R at the start of his message, perhaps the double C/R will
help. I don't know.
Now all this got me to thinking, and I don't know the answer to this, but
perhaps if S&P stations wait a little longer before coming back to a CQ
station, will it help eliminate the S&P station from being spotted? This is
actually good practice anyway. I like to wait just a half second or more after
the run stations drops his transmitter to listen to see if anyone (that I can
hear) else is calling the CQ station at the same time as me. If so, I send my
call 3 times. If not, I send my call 2 times. I wonder if this will also help
break the association with the CQ message?
I don't now how much better the skimmer software can be made. But if the
operators on this reflector would start implementing changes to our own
messages and the way we operate, maybe we can make the skimmer experience a
little better.
73, Don AA5AU
From: Lee Sawkins <ve7cc@shaw.ca>
To: rtty@contesting.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Decoder performance on crowded bands
Jamie
How sending this. "{enter}WW3S WW3S ". Maybe this would break the association
between the CQ from AA5AU and you better and not spot you. I seem to rarely get
spotted during S&P and this is what I do.
73 Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Senesac" <al9a@mtaonline.net>
To: rtty@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:18:03 AM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Decoder performance on crowded bands
Quick fix. Don't send the 'DE' before your call. It is absolutely unnecessary!
Gary AL9A
Sent from my Kindle HDX
On September 29, 2015, at 2:57 PM, WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net> wrote:
What I think usually happens is the skimmer cannot tell the difference between
who is who.....so since most people now append their CQ message with CQ, it
goes like this....
CQ AA5AU AA5AU CQ
and then I answer
DE WW3S WW3S
ends up looking to the skimmers as
CQ AA5AU AA5AU CQ DE WW3S WW3S
and I get spotted on Dons run frequency....
just a semi educated guess, from a semi educated man....
> On 9/29/2015 7:37:46 PM, Tim Shoppa (tshoppa@gmail.com) wrote:
> > Wow, thanks for all the responses! Most especially to Lee VE7CC himself,
> who helped me figure out how to reset a filter I had apparently applied
> over a year ago (probably by clicking on the "NE ONLY" button in N1MM). The
> density of good CW skimmers in NE USA meant that I had never noticed this
> filter until the RTTY contest, where most of the USA RTTY Skimmers were in
> 7-land.
>
> AA5AU and GU0SUP raised an issue, about how sometimes S
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