Ron,
Looks like you have about worked them all already. Only up to 11 QSOs
so far. I might as well quit now.
Congrats!
73... Bill
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1. Missing BARTG75 (Jim Howard)
2. PACTOR III Start Date ... (Joe Subich, W4TV)
3. Re: PACTOR III Start Date ... (Adrian Engele via RTTY)
4. Re: PACTOR III Start Date ... (Joe Subich, W4TV)
5. Re: PACTOR III Start Date ... (Terry)
6. Re: PACTOR III Start Date ... (Joe Subich, W4TV)
7. Re: PACTOR III Start Date ... (Neal Campbell)
8. RTTY NCCC Sprint continues on Thursday (in NA), 15-80m
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:13:58 -0400
From: Jim Howard <howardje@earthlink.net>
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: [RTTY] Missing BARTG75
Message-ID: <1C860D42-D538-4538-9234-898215466E72@earthlink.net>
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Dick,
I suffered until near the bitter end with 62 Q?s on 15 & 20m. I look forward
to sprints as I rarely can handle 24/48 hr contests but this time I was so
disappointed!
73,
Jim, W4SDJ
Begin forwarded message:
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:18:22 -0600
> From: Dick-W0RAA <dickt@w0raa.com>
> To: "rtty@contesting.com" <rtty@contesting.com>, "w9ily@comcast.net"
> <w9ily@comcast.net>
> Subject: [RTTY] Missing BARTG75
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> You didn't miss much, John. Band conditions really sucked. This is one
of my favorite contests and I look forward to it. Especially the 75 baud
part. But this was a tremendous lack of good propagation, as I think many
will agree.
>
> I gave up after 22 Q's in a little over an hour. Too embarrassed to even
submit a score. Waiting for the September edition of this one.
>
> Dick - W0RAA
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:48:12 -0400
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
To: RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
Message-ID: <5360100C.1080502@subich.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Does anyone know for sure when SCS released the first PACTOR III modems and
when they were first implemented in amateur service?
--
73,
... Joe, W4TV
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:35:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adrian Engele via RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>
To: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>, RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
Message-ID:
<1398807313.19118.YahooMailNeo@web121006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Joe,
Not sure is this helps: PACTOR Museum ?
PACTOR Museum ?
Here, we show you all our modem models from the beginning.
View on www.scs-ptc.com Preview by Yahoo ?
73, Adrian AA5UK
>________________________________
> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
>To: RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:48 PM
>Subject: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
>
>
>
>Does anyone know for sure when SCS released the first PACTOR III modems
>and when they were first implemented in amateur service?
>
>--
>
>73,
>
>? ? ... Joe, W4TV
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:50:15 -0400
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
Message-ID: <53601E97.3040501@subich.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Thank you. It would appear that PACTOR III was introduced in May of 2002.
There is no record of how quickly it moved from commercial to amateur
service but we do know that it was causing enough interference to other
users that by 2008 there had been at least one petition asking that the
Commission impose the bandwidth limit set by the twin 300 baud and 1000 Hz
shift limits on FSK to all HF data emissions.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 4/29/2014 5:35 PM, Adrian Engele via RTTY wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Not sure is this helps: PACTOR Museum ?
>
> PACTOR Museum ?
> Here, we show you all our modem models from the beginning.
> View on www.scs-ptc.com Preview by Yahoo
>
>
> 73, Adrian AA5UK
>
>
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
>> To: RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:48 PM
>> Subject: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know for sure when SCS released the first PACTOR III
>> modems and when they were first implemented in amateur service?
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:22:18 -0500
From: Terry <ab5k@hotmail.com>
To: "'Joe Subich, W4TV'" <lists@subich.com>, <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
Message-ID: <SNT148-DS225780F26D2DC5ABAEEDAE92460@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Joe,
Looks like there were also issues in 2006:
In November 2006, N5RFX filed RM-11392:
<http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=6519008574>
RM11392 asks the FCC to re-establish the narrowband nature of the RTTY/Data
subbands in the 80 through 10-meter bands. Emissions have crept into the
narrowband RTTY/Data subbands in the 80 through 10-meter bands that are not
appropriate for the RTTY/Data subbands. Stations under automatic control
have taken advantage of loopholes created by terminology in the commission's
rules that is not applicable to new operating modes.
Terry AB5K
-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe Subich,
W4TV
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 4:50 PM
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
Thank you. It would appear that PACTOR III was introduced in May of 2002.
There is no record of how quickly it moved from commercial to amateur
service but we do know that it was causing enough interference to other
users that by 2008 there had been at least one petition asking that the
Commission impose the bandwidth limit set by the twin 300 baud and 1000 Hz
shift limits on FSK to all HF data emissions.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 4/29/2014 5:35 PM, Adrian Engele via RTTY wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Not sure is this helps: PACTOR Museum -
>
> PACTOR Museum -
> Here, we show you all our modem models from the beginning.
> View on www.scs-ptc.com Preview by Yahoo
>
>
> 73, Adrian AA5UK
>
>
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
>> To: RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:48 PM
>> Subject: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know for sure when SCS released the first PACTOR III
>> modems and when they were first implemented in amateur service?
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:46:16 -0400
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
To: Terry <ab5k@hotmail.com>, rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
Message-ID: <53602BB8.9000401@subich.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
2008 was when the FCC denied the N5RFX petition. So from introduction to
problem was five years for PACTOR III.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 4/29/2014 6:22 PM, Terry wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Looks like there were also issues in 2006:
>
> In November 2006, N5RFX filed RM-11392:
> <http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=6519008574>
>
> RM11392 asks the FCC to re-establish the narrowband nature of the
> RTTY/Data subbands in the 80 through 10-meter bands. Emissions have
> crept into the narrowband RTTY/Data subbands in the 80 through
> 10-meter bands that are not appropriate for the RTTY/Data subbands.
> Stations under automatic control have taken advantage of loopholes
> created by terminology in the commission's rules that is not applicable to
new operating modes.
>
>
> Terry AB5K
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
> Subich, W4TV
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 4:50 PM
> To: rtty@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
>
>
> Thank you. It would appear that PACTOR III was introduced in May of 2002.
> There is no record of how quickly it moved from commercial to amateur
> service but we do know that it was causing enough interference to
> other users that by 2008 there had been at least one petition asking
> that the Commission impose the bandwidth limit set by the twin 300
> baud and 1000 Hz shift limits on FSK to all HF data emissions.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 4/29/2014 5:35 PM, Adrian Engele via RTTY wrote:
>> Joe,
>>
>> Not sure is this helps: PACTOR Museum -
>>
>> PACTOR Museum -
>> Here, we show you all our modem models from the beginning.
>> View on www.scs-ptc.com Preview by Yahoo
>>
>>
>> 73, Adrian AA5UK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
>>> To: RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:48 PM
>>> Subject: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know for sure when SCS released the first PACTOR III
>>> modems and when they were first implemented in amateur service?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:48:20 -0400
From: Neal Campbell <nealk3nc@gmail.com>
To: Terry <ab5k@hotmail.com>
Cc: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>, RTTY Reflector
<rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
Message-ID:
<CAOx8i90cU7kftqd5AdV_V77Dq+AGZ0fGHaV-wzp4qKjp9azr-A@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Looking at scs-ptc.com's pages archived at archive.org, it appears that it
was released somewhere between Feb-Aug 2002.
If you have never used archive.org, its tremendous, it keeps snapshots of
websites since the 90s,
73
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal LLC
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Terry <ab5k@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Looks like there were also issues in 2006:
>
> In November 2006, N5RFX filed RM-11392:
> <http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=6519008574>
>
> RM11392 asks the FCC to re-establish the narrowband nature of the
> RTTY/Data subbands in the 80 through 10-meter bands. Emissions have
> crept into the narrowband RTTY/Data subbands in the 80 through
> 10-meter bands that are not appropriate for the RTTY/Data subbands.
> Stations under automatic control have taken advantage of loopholes
> created by terminology in the commission's rules that is not
> applicable to new operating modes.
>
>
> Terry AB5K
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
> Subich, W4TV
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 4:50 PM
> To: rtty@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
>
>
> Thank you. It would appear that PACTOR III was introduced in May of 2002.
> There is no record of how quickly it moved from commercial to amateur
> service but we do know that it was causing enough interference to
> other users that by 2008 there had been at least one petition asking
> that the Commission impose the bandwidth limit set by the twin 300
> baud and 1000 Hz shift limits on FSK to all HF data emissions.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 4/29/2014 5:35 PM, Adrian Engele via RTTY wrote:
> > Joe,
> >
> > Not sure is this helps: PACTOR Museum -
> >
> > PACTOR Museum -
> > Here, we show you all our modem models from the beginning.
> > View on www.scs-ptc.com Preview by Yahoo
> >
> >
> > 73, Adrian AA5UK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
> >> To: RTTY <rtty@contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:48 PM
> >> Subject: [RTTY] PACTOR III Start Date ...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone know for sure when SCS released the first PACTOR III
> >> modems and when they were first implemented in amateur service?
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> ... Joe, W4TV
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> RTTY mailing list
> >> RTTY@contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/rtty
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:00:48 -0700
From: Ken Keeler <kenkeeler@jazznut.com>
To: rtty@contesting.com, nccc@contesting.com, nccc-blue@kkn.net,
cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [RTTY] RTTY NCCC Sprint continues on Thursday (in NA),
15-80m
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For those who need a weekly dose of RTTY contesting, we continue the NS
Ladder format practice sessions.
Try it, you'll like it!
The 30 minute RTTY sprint practice will be held on Thursday night, half an
hour before the CW NSLadder:
0200 to 0230Z May 2, Thursday night in NA, 7:00-7:30 PM PDT,
10-1030 PM EDT, etc.
A new page has been set up on the NCCC website with the RTTY NS info.
It has several links to all sorts of "how to" articles.
Click
on:
<http://www.ncccsprint.com/rttyns.html>http://www.ncccsprint.com/rttyns.html
73, N6RO, Thursday Night Diddler!
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