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Subject: Re: [RTTY] SPAM-LOW: Re: Amateur Radio Teletype Society Bulletins online & great new Jim Ha...
From: Dick Flanagan <dick@k7vc.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:28:06 -0800
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The message says that the stuff is no longer available to YOU, not to them.

When you delete an item do you think FB goes through their archives and removes all copies of it? Do you think they go through all of their promotional directories looking for any copies? That they notify their partners and affiliates, "Whoops, sorry, you can't use that any more?"

You have given them a non-exclusive license with no time limit on it.

Of course Google is just as bad. They can use everything you send or receive over gmail. Why do you think it is free?

Oh, well. Dead horse time. You're not going to change my mind and I doubt I will be changing yours.

--
Dick Flanagan K7VC
dick@k7vc.com

On 2014-02-24 9:19 AM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
Those of us who do use Facebook will recognize when you delete a message, photo, or video... any links to that content pursued by others are greeted with a (paraphrased) "Sorry, that content is no longer available" message. You also see this on YouTube when content has been removed.

You DO realize all your content on this (or any) reflector is being monitored as well, right?

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN

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On 2/24/2014 9:58 AM, Kai wrote:
Folks,
"granting Facebook a non-exclusive use of your content." is the definition of " "I discovered every bit of info they glean is theirs -- never to be destroyed..."
As a "test", see if you can "ungrant" your permission.

-73
Kai, KE4PT

On 2/23/2014 9:53 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
I'm sorry but the following statement is blatantly wrong "I discovered every bit of info they glean is theirs -- never to be destroyed..."

Please read the Facebook Terns of Use - Statement of Rights and Responsibilities. Specifically section 2 regarding your Intellectual Property rights.

*"2. Sharing Your Content and Information*

You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook, and you can control how it is shared through your privacy <https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=privacy> and application settings <https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=applications>."

Within Section 2 are five statements that provide additional information, including granting Facebook a non-exclusive use of your content. This temporary license ends when you delete your content. They "own" nothing. They have permission from you to "use". Subsection 2 also describes the purging details and that backup copies within their system will eventually purge and are not available to others.

Don't make stuff up and try to pass it off as "authentic"!

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN

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On 2/23/2014 8:19 PM, Phil Sussman wrote:
Regrettably I agree with John. I say regrettably because I
have unfortunately learned the 'price' of dealing with
Facebook. They reap and harvest EVERYTHING and I mean
EVERYTHING. Talk about 'big-brother', Facebook puts that
analogy to shame. I discovered every bit of info they glean
is theirs -- never to be destroyed -- just surrendered to the
highest bidder -- or rather EVERY bidder.

Caution: Woe to any college student on Facebook seeking a job.
Boxers or briefs -- they know -- and much much more.

73 de Phil - N8PS

PS. I was cloned there by a douple-ganger with the same name
or using mine.


Quoting John Becker <w0jab@big-river.net>:


On 2/23/2014 3:57 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
Facebook, on the other hand, is equivalent to a 72" HDTV with color, surround sound, video, and instant connections to your friends and family. YOU control who gets to "see your stuff", not some invisible reflector moderator.
If you own a business the insurance company may ask if you use facebook. Or at least my wife's did and said they would not cover. Had to do with facebook's habit or trying to read as much as they can get from your system (computer) Was more then enough for me not to use it. Besides being on a satellite internet
system I have got to watch the daily bandwidth usage.

Can you just guess the outcome if all the her customer credit card information got out.
That would be lawsuit never ending. You use it if you like, not me.



John, W0JAB
Louisiana, Missouri
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