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Subject: Re: [RTTY] SPAM-LOW: Re: Amateur Radio Teletype Society Bulletins online & great new Jim Ha...
From: Phil Sussman <psussman@pactor.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:57:05 -0500
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Kai,

It's amazing to me how some people are so deceived by Facebook
and never realize that:

1. The wording of their 'terms' is deceptive and offers a false
   sense of security.

and

2. Beyond what they 'print' there is an 'actuality' of what they
   actually do which may (or may not) comply with what they print.

Thanks for explaining this in a way that I actually overlooked, but
certainly is true !!

73 de Phil - N8PS

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Quoting Kai <k.siwiak@ieee.org>:

Folks,
"granting Facebook a non-exclusive use of your content." is the definition of " "I discovered every bit of info they glean is theirs -- never to be destroyed..."
As a "test", see if you can "ungrant" your permission.

-73
Kai, KE4PT

On 2/23/2014 9:53 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
I'm sorry but the following statement is blatantly wrong "I discovered every bit of info they glean is theirs -- never to be destroyed..."

Please read the Facebook Terns of Use - Statement of Rights and Responsibilities. Specifically section 2 regarding your Intellectual Property rights.

*"2. Sharing Your Content and Information*

You own all of the content and information you post on Facebook, and you can control how it is shared through your privacy <https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=privacy> and application settings <https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=applications>."

Within Section 2 are five statements that provide additional information, including granting Facebook a non-exclusive use of your content. This temporary license ends when you delete your content. They "own" nothing. They have permission from you to "use". Subsection 2 also describes the purging details and that backup copies within their system will eventually purge and are not available to others.

Don't make stuff up and try to pass it off as "authentic"!

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN

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On 2/23/2014 8:19 PM, Phil Sussman wrote:
Regrettably I agree with John. I say regrettably because I
have unfortunately learned the 'price' of dealing with
Facebook. They reap and harvest EVERYTHING and I mean
EVERYTHING. Talk about 'big-brother', Facebook puts that
analogy to shame. I discovered every bit of info they glean
is theirs -- never to be destroyed -- just surrendered to the
highest bidder -- or rather EVERY bidder.

Caution: Woe to any college student on Facebook seeking a job.
Boxers or briefs -- they know -- and much much more.

73 de Phil - N8PS

PS. I was cloned there by a douple-ganger with the same name
or using mine.


Quoting John Becker <w0jab@big-river.net>:


On 2/23/2014 3:57 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
Facebook, on the other hand, is equivalent to a 72" HDTV with color, surround sound, video, and instant connections to your friends and family. YOU control who gets to "see your stuff", not some invisible reflector moderator.
If you own a business the insurance company may ask if you use facebook. Or at least my wife's did and said they would not cover. Had to do with facebook's habit or trying to read as much as they can get from your system (computer) Was more then enough for me not to use it. Besides being on a satellite internet
system I have got to watch the daily bandwidth usage.

Can you just guess the outcome if all the her customer credit card information got out.
That would be lawsuit never ending. You use it if you like, not me.



John, W0JAB
Louisiana, Missouri
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