Yes, that's true about the change to N1MM Logger. This morning I
submitted a change request for the NAQP modules to default to Single
Operator. If "Assisted" is not available for selection, that might
prompt some people to visit the NCJ website to read the rules. :-)
That was the catalyst for my 'semi-rant' about the wording in the rules.
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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On 2/20/2013 1:12 PM, ww3s@zoominternet.net wrote:
N1MM software now defaults to ASSISTED in the contest setup dialog. I think the
rationale was the old default was single op, and many casual contesters would
use the cluster or telnet spotting, and not know to change the default....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc@citlink.net>
To: rtty@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:33:34 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] NAQP RTTY contest on Saturday February 23
Thanks Mike...
My questions came up because in a private message exchange I learned
that many logs submitted for NAQP come in with "Single Operator
Assisted" as the entry classification. That is not a valid class for
NAQP. So this piqued my curiosity to look at the rules to see how the
classifications are defined.
For the seasoned contester that grew up with the development of the
network, they will know and understand the nuances of "spotting" in the
context that you described... that is, being connected to the network
and sending spots, but not receiving them. I wonder how many casual
contesters know about this, or how to set it up? If "send only" spotting
is acceptable for NAQP, it should be stated as such (IMO).
The irony is the existing language negates this understanding in the
second part. First, 5.a.i. states: "One person performs all
transmitting, receiving, spotting and logging functions..." Then 5.b.i
states: "more than one person performs transmitting, receiving and
logging functions, etc." Spotting isn't even mentioned in the
Multi-Operator Two-Transmitter category. This leaves the reader to
question whether two-way spotting is allowed or not?
I realize it can be argued that anything not explicitly disallowed in
the rules is allowed on the air. However, when I combine the issue of
receiving "Single Op Assisted" logs with the indirect language I read in
the rules, I think the rules should be more direct on this topic.
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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On 2/20/2013 7:59 AM, Michael Haack wrote:
I may entirely have missed this one, but....
IMHO, Rule A:1 would apply to "spotting" stations.
There is no reason not to spot the stations you are working and many
cluster nodes will invoke the "contest" capabilities of the system,
which allows you to Spot only, and not receive spots from the system.
In doing so you would still adhere to rule A:2.
73, Mike WB9b
On 2013-02-20 1:18 AM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
Hello Mark...
Can you (or someone) please clarify the following Single Operator
Entry Classification:
"Entry Classification:
a. Single Operator
i. One person performs all transmitting, receiving, spotting and
logging functions as well as equipment and antenna adjustments.
ii. Access to spotting information obtained directly or indirectly
from any source other than the station operator, such as from other
stations or automated tools, is prohibited."
My question is this: In subsection "i." why is the word "Spotting"
included? In subsection "ii." spotting information is explicitly
prohibited. This double-talk language leads to confusion.
Next, in the Multi-Operator Two-Transmitter category, there is no
mention about spotting. Does that mean an operator can use the
network for spotting? If so, why not simply state it.
Kudos! Rule number 7 is plain English. CW only, SSB only, RTTY only.
Then in Rule 10, the "assistance" question is buried in the second
half of the "Exchange" rule. In my mind, assistance and spotting go
hand-in-hand. Why not add a plain English rule about spotting and
assistance as a numbered item?
My apology if I "sound cranky"... I guess I am!
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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