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Subject: Re: [RTTY] Digital DXCC or ARRL Board of Directors, respectfully: have my strong disagreement
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:35:37 -0400
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Separate Digital (all digital modes except RTTY) and RTTY DXCC
will never fly with the DXAC, Awards Committee and the Board of
Directors.

There is no way to verify which digital mode/encoding was used.
There are no separate DXCC awards for AM vs. Phone (all other analog
and voice modes except full AM).  Finally, ARRL do not want to make
the DXCC program into one with nearly 500 separate awards (like WAS)
... they will not even do separate single band DXCC awards for CW,
Phone or Digital.  And most importantly, all digital modes have
already been accepted for the "RTTY" award for more than 25 years.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV



On 8/3/2011 11:14 AM, Boyan wrote:
> I fully support Andrei.
>
> 73 Boyan LZ8E
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andrei Stchislenok<asnp3d@gmail.com>
> To: Kok Chen<chen@mac.com>
> Cc: "Joe Subich, W4TV"<lists@subich.com>; RTTY Reflector<rtty@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Digital DXCC or ARRL Board of Directors, respectfully: 
> have my strong disagreement
>
> I would leave RTTY as it is and grouped all others digital modes into
> "DIGITAL".
>
> WE have here: (and will die with them):
>
> CW,
>
> PHONE,
>
> RTTY,
>
> DIGITAL.
>
> 2011/8/2 Kok Chen<chen@mac.com>
>
>>
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>>> Remember, "Phone" includes AM,
>>> SSB. FM, SSTV, DV and FSTV.
>>
>> Precisely.
>>
>> "Phone" appears to be the euphemism for all modes that encode non-textual
>> information (speech, pictures, etc).
>>
>> "CW" is distinct from "Phone" because it represents textual information,
>> but is meant for non-textual (usually aural) decoding.
>>
>> The remaining group (what W9OL very correctly pointed out as "not CW nor
>> Phone") are the "digital modes," which also encodes textual information and
>> but unlike "CW," they are decoded by machine back into textual information.
>>
>> You can call this last group anything you like.  But to call it "RTTY" is
>> plain wrong, since most of the "not CW nor Phone" transmissions today are
>> not even made in RTTY any more.
>>
>> 73
>> Chen, W7AY
>>
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