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Re: [RTTY] CWSkimmer use in Rtty

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] CWSkimmer use in Rtty
From: Terry Dunlap <terry@kk6t.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:47:29 -0700
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Does it take two sound cards to use CWSkimmer and MMTTY (or whatever 
you're using for RTTY)?

73 de Terry KK6T


On 7/26/2011 9:14 AM, Kok Chen wrote:
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:04 AM, Bill wrote:
>
>> For each rtty signal, there 'appears' to be two traces. Separated slightly.
>> I'm assuming Mark and space.
> Yep.  That is the Mark-Space shift.
>
> For most people, the separation is 170 Hz.  It could be 200 Hz for many who 
> still insist on using an AFSK TNC, and the shift can pretty much be anything 
> for an off-calibrated older generation Direct FSK rig like the Omni V or Omni 
> VI (I have seen an Omni V put out 80 Hz shift on FSK :-).
>
>> The upper (higher freq) is always longer.
> It depends by what you mean by "upper."  It all depends on what the software 
> author did, and also whether you are using an USB or LSB receiver.  It could 
> as well be left and right, or some 3D plot where frequency is in the "depth" 
> dimension of the plot.
>
> By convention, Mark is the one that is the higher of the two FSK frequencies 
> on the RF spectrum.
>
> The Mark is the "resting" state of FSK.  For FSK transmitters, Mark is the 
> "unkeyed" state.
>
> Since the Stop bit, being the bit that places the FSK signal into "rest" 
> state is a Mark, stations that transmit with 1.5 or 2 stop bits will transmit 
> a tad more often in Mark than in Space, if all Baudot characters are random . 
>  You can often find a "reversed" station by just watching signals in the 
> waterfall.
>
> See Figure 16.1 in Chapter 16 of the 2010 and 2011 ARRL Handbook.  I have 
> found that figure to be so absolutely invaluable, I had taken it lock stock 
> and barrel from the older Handbooks when I rewrote the RTTY section of 
> chapter 16 of the handbook.  The same figure appears as a Fig 9.10 in chapter 
> 9 of the 2009 Handbook.
>
>> The upper trace starts first and ends last.
> Many modems often begin with an undiddled Mark tone (could last 100ms or so) 
> to allow a receiver to tune the signal (Mark tone is by convention, also 
> where you spot an RTTY signal).  Another reason is to let the transmitter 
> settle after issuing a PTT, before keying it.
>
> Since an RTTY transmission ends with a stop bit, you will also naturally see 
> the transmission end with a Mark.  The Mark signal can is also slightly 
> extended at the end -- i.e., the diddle is turned off a little before the PTT 
> is unkeyed.
>
> In your case, "upper" on CW Skimmer is most likely the higher frequency in 
> the RF spectrum :-).
>
> 73
> Chen, W7AY
>
>
>
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