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Re: [RTTY] EQSL

To: <ke1fo@arrl.net>, "Ken Brookner" <kenb@brookner.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] EQSL
From: "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc@citlink.net>
Reply-to: Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@citlink.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:43:13 -0600
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Al,

No, the system works different than you described in your message below.

The eQSL system DOES automatic matching. If both sides of the QSO match,
it's an automatic confirmation and you don't have to do anything. You agree 
and
the other station agrees you had a contact on that date, time, band, and 
mode.

However, if one side or the other does NOT match, then the fellow receiving
the request will see there is a non-matching QSL request. You don't have to
do anything at this point. The other fellow will never get any credit. You 
can
reject his request, but all that does is clean up your inbox (a good idea). 
You
will never see that request again.

Or you can look at the request and maybe see he (or you) logged the wrong
band but everything else is correct (date, time, mode, callsigns). You have
the option to send him a message and discuss "what is wrong". One of you
probably logged the wrong band. If you come to a consensus, the guilty
party can update that QSO. It might be you, it might be him/her.

The system works great for honest people. Now, if a XX9XX card were
to show up in your inbox for an 80m CW contact and all you had to do was
accept it, what would most people do? That's the temptation that is 
eliminated
by the double blind LoTW system. You would never know that confirmation
request was sitting there waiting for you.

There is no difference than the XX9XX card showing up in your mailbox one
day. You can decide to use it for an award or not. Honest people would not.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alfred Frugoli" <ke1fo@arrl.net>
To: "Ken Brookner" <kenb@brookner.com>
Cc: <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] EQSL


> My understanding of eQSL is that it's just a digital QSL card and there is
> no match involved in the system at all.  I enter QSO data, and a card gets
> sent to the recipient.  If it's not a valid contact, the recipient must
> reject it.  If they don't, eQSL will count it as a valid QSL for award
> purposes.  Just as if you sent me a QSL card, but you actually worked 
> K1FO,
> not KE1FO.  It's my responsibility to check my log and make sure the 
> contact
> was valid before I use that card for my WAS award.  The WAS card checker 
> may
> look for signs of fraud on the actual card, but they would take my word 
> that
> the QSL card is for a contact I actually made.
>
> 73 de Al, KE1FO
>
> -----
> Visit my amateur radio contesting blog at ke1fo.wordpress.com.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Ken Brookner <kenb@brookner.com> wrote:
>
>> hummm..  then why do i get "cards" from other stations for whom i've
>> never uploaded any data?  i think the match process is for award credit
>> only, otherwise you just get a "card" in your inbox same as you might
>> via mail or the bureau.  am i off base here?
>>
>> kenb, ky5g
>>
>> Rick Smith wrote:
>> >      EQSL matches the callsigns and a time window to put it in the 
>> > other
>> station's inbox.  He decides if it matches or is a reject for either of 
>> you
>> to get credit.  The RTTY pileup mess of Belize last year when some folks 
>> did
>> not put a space after their last callsign in an answer to me and stuff 
>> ran
>> together created some interesting callsigns.  Folks that I knew did not 
>> do
>> RTTY were showing up in the composites that flowed across my screen. 
>> That
>> is another soapbox, sorry!
>> >
>> > KT7G
>> > Rick Smith
>> > 360-896-0221
>> > http://home.comcast.net/~macrosmith/MACROSMITH.html<http://home.comcast.net/%7Emacrosmith/MACROSMITH.html>
>> >
>> >
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