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Re: [RTTY] Telnet/Packet and the RTTY RU

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] Telnet/Packet and the RTTY RU
From: "Frank Hunt" <zl2br@ihug.co.nz>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:04:03 +1300
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Maybe there are too many Operator/Transmitter categories in some  
contests. 

Maybe there should just be two:
Single (single operator and single transmitter) 
Multiple (multiple operators and/or transmitters) 

Sometimes there is MOST, MO2T and MOMT, wouldn't be surprised to see  
2OST or 2O2T next :-) 

And yes every category should be able use Packet/Telnet. It would 
seem  that there was some blatant traceable cheating going on in the  
ARRL 10m  (see K1TTT's report), and probably a lot of untraceable 
cheating as well.  Personally I find Telnet useful in contests to 
take note of when I've been  spotted rather than to chase 
multipliers. That's all I used it for in the ARRL  DX, and so I had 
to enter as MOST. 

73, Frank ZL4BR 

> This topic has been beaten to death on every ham reflector I belong 
 
> too...However, it is a discussion that should continue, because I 
think NA  
> contest sponsors are behind the proverbial 8 ball on this issue... 
>  
> I've proven to myself, along with many others I've spoken with, 
that in an  
> all-out effort to try and place in the top-10 of any contest, LEAVE 
THE  
> TELNET OFF!!...It's a distraction and harms serious efforts...Most 
people  
> spend way too much time trying to bust Packet-Pileups, and not 
enough time  
> running...Don't believe me ? Take a look at most contest winners 
and see  
> what category they are in (assuming they correctly reported their 
real  
> category)...Not always, but many times... 
>  
> However, Telnet/Packet is still a GOOD thing... 
>  
> For one thing, it promotes activity in the contest by advertising 
juicy DX,  
> or rare mults, whatever...Gets more people on...That's good... 
>  
> Some ops (possibly many, maybe most) enjoy Telnet/Packet (myself  
> included)...It sometimes makes an otherwise slow/boring contest FUN 
for  
> casual ops...Again, gets more people on...That's good... 
>  
> IMO, forcing ASSISTED ops into the MULTI category only DIScourages  

> participation and ENcourages cheating...To my knowledge, only the 
ARRL RU,  
> ARRL 10 meter and RAC contests still force Telnet users into MULTI  

> categories...I can't think of one EU sponsored contest that doesn't 
allow  
> Telnet in all categories now...They have it RIGHT, in that they 
have  
> recognized that Telnet is a "here-to-stay, fact-of-life" in the 
world of  
> radiosport...I can agree with an ASSISTED category, but not MULTI-
OP  
> status... 
>  
> CQ has hit the nail square on the head, with their Tri-bander/Wires 
 
> class...Now THAT makes a difference... 
>  
> 73, Scott VE1OP 
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----  
> From: "Jim Preston" <jpreston1@cox.net> 
> To: <rtty@contesting.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:14 PM 
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARRL RTTY Round-Up Rules - QUESTIONs about band 
 
> changes,etc. 
>  
>  
> > The category would be SO Assisted (or Unlimited), not just SO. 
Since it 
> > would be a separate category, it would not be in competition with 
SO. If 
> > ALL single-ops were allowed to use packet (not as a separate 
category), 
> > that would be a different matter. I feel that it should 
definitely be a 
> > separate category. 
> > 
> > 73, 
> > 
> > Jim N6VH 
> > 
> > 
> > Bill Turner wrote: 
> > 
> >> At 08:59 PM 12/13/2005, Mike wrote: 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>>My feelings as well, Jim.  I would like it to go further and 
allow 
> >>>packet in any of the SO classes. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
> >> 
> >> This has been beat nearly to death, but I see it's still 
twitching. 
> >> 
> >> The essence is "If another ham else is feeding you spots, how 
can 
> >> that possibly be "single operator"? 
> >> 
> >> 'Splain yourself, Lucy. :-) 
> >> 
> >> 73, Bill W6WRT 
> >> 
> >> 


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