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RE: [RFI] I wish this guy had interviewed Ed Hare also...

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Subject: RE: [RFI] I wish this guy had interviewed Ed Hare also...
From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:18:46 -0500
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The AMRAD filing documented interference to a HomePlug BPL system in Potomac, 
MD.  15 watts brought the system down.

73, 
Ed Hare, W1RFI
ARRL Lab
225 Main St
Newington, CT 06111
Tel: 860-594-0318
Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org
Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis



> -----Original Message-----
> From: rfi-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of Michael Tope
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 12:33 PM
> To: k1ttt@arrl.net; rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] I wish this guy had interviewed Ed Hare also...
> 
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> My understanding of the Home Plug standard was that it notched the ham
> bands by 30dB (after prodding by ARRL), so there may actually be some
> truth to the first part of the citation. In any case, it was 
> the second
> paragraph
> of the citation that I was referring to:
> 
> >"[Interference] just doesn't exist," Birnbaum said. "They 
> based a lot of
> > their assumptions on outdated noise flow analysis."
> 
> "Outdated noise flow analysis"  - what the hell is that?? 
> Sure sounds like
> bullsh#% to me :):)
> 
> BTW, I am pretty sure the homeplug hardware does their 
> hamband notching
> in the digital backend of the receiver, so it most likely 
> that it has the
> same
> susceptibility to RF overload from nearby transmitters as the 
> un-notched
> systems (e.g. you'll be able to crash it with a 50 watt mobile).
> 
> 73 de Mike, W4EF.........................
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <k1ttt@arrl.net>
> To: <rfi@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [RFI] I wish this guy had interviewed Ed Hare also...
> 
> 
> > > Here is my favorite quote, Jason:
> > >>But Current Technologies LLC, which offers BPL service in 
> the Cincinnati
> > > and Rockville, >Md., areas, can't find interference caused by its
> system,
> > > said Jay Birnbaum, the company's >vice president and 
> general counsel.
> > > Current Technologies uses a technology standard >called HomePlug,
> designed
> > > to not interfere with other radio signals.
> > >
> >
> > as i understand the homeplug stuff it adapts the channels 
> it uses to avoid
> > interference to itself.  in doing so it would avoid 
> frequencies being used
> > locally by other services.... being used to transmit that 
> is.  so if you
> > are listening on a frequency it can't avoid interfering 
> with you unless
> > you are listening to something else that is strong enough 
> to interfer with
> > the homeplug communications.
> >
> >
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