I noticed it will support both clients (non polling & polling) at the
same time, impressive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of Alex Phillips
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:57 AM
> To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
>
> John,
>
> This may be a stupid question, but with this new polling protocol,
will
> the client need to also have this software or will a standard .11x
> system talk to your ap running Nstreme?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of John Tully
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:53 AM
> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
>
> At 06:57 PM 4/29/2004, you wrote:
> >John,
> >
> >I've been a user of MT for some time, and have been very pleased with
> the
> >router (which is our gateway router) and the continual improvements
to
> same.
> >I'm really looking forward to this Nstreme protocol implementation.
I
> have
> >a backhaul application, 17 mi. shot, low noise. Currently I'm using
> KN
> >2.4b, and I've outgrown it. I'd like to see at least 20Mbps on this
> link.
> >I'm currently looking at Motorola's Canopy, but I certainly like the
> >functionality of your routers, and their ease of use. Do you think
> this new
> >polling protocol/Atheros 5.8GHz radios would work for this
application?
>
> Yes, this is why we started making this protocol -- to get the highest
> speed out of a long distance links and overcome the slowdown that
occurs
>
> because of the ack-time increasing with the distance of the link. We
> also
> have a number of other things we are putting in this protocol to speed
> up
> the link -- some of these things are coming from our M3P (MikroTik
> Packet
> Packer Protocol) which has been around for three years or more and was
> designed to overcome 802.11 protocol problems that occur with small
> packets
> (telephony packets are small).
>
> This protocol is still changing. All of the 'heavy lifting' parts
have
> been made and now we are just adding little things. I think we will
> have
> something pretty close to the final product in two weeks.
>
> The CPE has to use our RouterOS and any i386 SBC or regular
> motherboard. We are working on lower cost solutions, but the time
fram
> is
> too far to comment on.
>
> John
> www.mikrotik.com
>
>
> >If it works, I'm also looking at the next step on the PtMP front.
What
> do
> >you have in the way of CPEs for Nstreme planned?
> >
> >Also John, if you'd like to reduce your volume of questions like
these,
> why
> >don't you implement a message board much like the StarOS folks have?
> The
> >email MT board is too fragmented to be of much use in researching
> questions
> >like these. (Not completely useless, but much less useful than
> >http://forums.star-os.com/ is for StarOS.)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Norm
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "John Tully" <tully@mikrotik.com>
> >To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:38 PM
> >Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> >
> >
> > > At 05:13 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:
> > > >John,
> > > >
> > > >You will have a polling system soon? Please provide more details?
> > >
> > > Here is the initial document from a test package that you can put
on
> a
> > > MikroTik AP/router/client.
> > > http://www.mikrotik.com/Documentation/nstreme.pdf
> > > Download page:
> > > http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html
> > >
> > > There will be some significant changes in the next two weeks, so
> this is
> > > just for testing if you are interested. The Nstreme (TM) protocol
> also
> >has
> > > the possibility for two radios (one tx only and one rx only) --
also
> one
> > > radio is supported for the multipoint Nstreme.
> > >
> > > John
> > > www.mikrotik.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > > On Behalf Of John Tully
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:59 AM
> > > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> > > > >
> > > > > At 02:35 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > >John,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Have you thought about supporting the KN PC Driver for Linux
so
> you
> > > >can
> > > > > >setup a Satellite station off a KN TC network?
> > > > >
> > > > > For 2.4GHz solutions, most people use our AP only and use some
> low
> > > >cost
> > > > > client solution -- unless they need a very smart router at the
> client,
> > > >and
> > > > > then they use our client solution also. For 5GHz, people use
> all
> > > >MikroTik
> > > > > RouterOS products (and usually www.routerboard.com products)
for
> a
> > > > > complete
> > > > > high speed solution.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I don't think it would be so useful to have KN TC 2.4GHz
> client
> > > >only
> > > > > support in our system. If the Linux driver includes source,
> then it
> > > > > wouldn't be difficult to add it -- but are many people
> interested in
> > > >this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, we will have the so called 'polling' feature soon -- and
> from
> > > >what I
> > > > > know about the Karlnet TC, ours will have some important
> features that
> > > >are
> > > > > not in the TC. For example, ours will use multiple rates
> (actually,
> > > >ours
> > > > > uses the best rate for throughput) -- where I have read that
> with
> > > >some/all
> > > > > TC versions you have to set only one rate for the AP. Of
course
> I am
> > > >not
> > > > > an expert on TC, so I may be wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of John
Tully
> > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:56 AM
> > > > > >To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> > > > > >
> > > > > >You can do that with a MikroTik RouterOS AP.
> > > > > >http://www.mikrotik.com/docs2.8/interface/bridge.main
> > > > > >
> > > > > >John
> > > > > >www.mikrotik.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >At 06:15 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > > >It's a shame that with 4 interfaces on the KN-200 that you
> can't
> > > >define
> > > > > >L2
> > > > > > >bridge groups - For example, define Interfaces 1 & 2 as
> "Group 1"
> > > >and
> > > > > > >Interfaces 3 & 4 as "Group 2" so that you can then route
> between
> > > >Group
> > > > > >1 &
> > > > > > >Group 2.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On 2004-04-26 at 10:34 PM Paul Horak wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Anybody know if you can bridge and route on the same
> > > > > > > >radio (KN200 in this rather bizarre case :-))? If so,
> > > > > > > >please can you share the config? Turning on routing
> > > > > > > >seems to automatically deny bridging of IP traffic.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Cheers,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Paul
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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