John,
This may be a stupid question, but with this new polling protocol, will
the client need to also have this software or will a standard .11x
system talk to your ap running Nstreme?
-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of John Tully
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:53 AM
To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
At 06:57 PM 4/29/2004, you wrote:
>John,
>
>I've been a user of MT for some time, and have been very pleased with
the
>router (which is our gateway router) and the continual improvements to
same.
>I'm really looking forward to this Nstreme protocol implementation. I
have
>a backhaul application, 17 mi. shot, low noise. Currently I'm using
KN
>2.4b, and I've outgrown it. I'd like to see at least 20Mbps on this
link.
>I'm currently looking at Motorola's Canopy, but I certainly like the
>functionality of your routers, and their ease of use. Do you think
this new
>polling protocol/Atheros 5.8GHz radios would work for this application?
Yes, this is why we started making this protocol -- to get the highest
speed out of a long distance links and overcome the slowdown that occurs
because of the ack-time increasing with the distance of the link. We
also
have a number of other things we are putting in this protocol to speed
up
the link -- some of these things are coming from our M3P (MikroTik
Packet
Packer Protocol) which has been around for three years or more and was
designed to overcome 802.11 protocol problems that occur with small
packets
(telephony packets are small).
This protocol is still changing. All of the 'heavy lifting' parts have
been made and now we are just adding little things. I think we will
have
something pretty close to the final product in two weeks.
The CPE has to use our RouterOS and any i386 SBC or regular
motherboard. We are working on lower cost solutions, but the time fram
is
too far to comment on.
John
www.mikrotik.com
>If it works, I'm also looking at the next step on the PtMP front. What
do
>you have in the way of CPEs for Nstreme planned?
>
>Also John, if you'd like to reduce your volume of questions like these,
why
>don't you implement a message board much like the StarOS folks have?
The
>email MT board is too fragmented to be of much use in researching
questions
>like these. (Not completely useless, but much less useful than
>http://forums.star-os.com/ is for StarOS.)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Norm
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Tully" <tully@mikrotik.com>
>To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:38 PM
>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
>
>
> > At 05:13 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:
> > >John,
> > >
> > >You will have a polling system soon? Please provide more details?
> >
> > Here is the initial document from a test package that you can put on
a
> > MikroTik AP/router/client.
> > http://www.mikrotik.com/Documentation/nstreme.pdf
> > Download page:
> > http://www.mikrotik.com/download.html
> >
> > There will be some significant changes in the next two weeks, so
this is
> > just for testing if you are interested. The Nstreme (TM) protocol
also
>has
> > the possibility for two radios (one tx only and one rx only) -- also
one
> > radio is supported for the multipoint Nstreme.
> >
> > John
> > www.mikrotik.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of John Tully
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:59 AM
> > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> > > >
> > > > At 02:35 PM 4/28/2004, you wrote:
> > > > >John,
> > > > >
> > > > >Have you thought about supporting the KN PC Driver for Linux so
you
> > >can
> > > > >setup a Satellite station off a KN TC network?
> > > >
> > > > For 2.4GHz solutions, most people use our AP only and use some
low
> > >cost
> > > > client solution -- unless they need a very smart router at the
client,
> > >and
> > > > then they use our client solution also. For 5GHz, people use
all
> > >MikroTik
> > > > RouterOS products (and usually www.routerboard.com products) for
a
> > > > complete
> > > > high speed solution.
> > > >
> > > > So, I don't think it would be so useful to have KN TC 2.4GHz
client
> > >only
> > > > support in our system. If the Linux driver includes source,
then it
> > > > wouldn't be difficult to add it -- but are many people
interested in
> > >this?
> > > >
> > > > Also, we will have the so called 'polling' feature soon -- and
from
> > >what I
> > > > know about the Karlnet TC, ours will have some important
features that
> > >are
> > > > not in the TC. For example, ours will use multiple rates
(actually,
> > >ours
> > > > uses the best rate for throughput) -- where I have read that
with
> > >some/all
> > > > TC versions you have to set only one rate for the AP. Of course
I am
> > >not
> > > > an expert on TC, so I may be wrong.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of John Tully
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:56 AM
> > > > >To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Bridge and route on the same KN200
> > > > >
> > > > >You can do that with a MikroTik RouterOS AP.
> > > > >http://www.mikrotik.com/docs2.8/interface/bridge.main
> > > > >
> > > > >John
> > > > >www.mikrotik.com
> > > > >
> > > > >At 06:15 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > >It's a shame that with 4 interfaces on the KN-200 that you
can't
> > >define
> > > > >L2
> > > > > >bridge groups - For example, define Interfaces 1 & 2 as
"Group 1"
> > >and
> > > > > >Interfaces 3 & 4 as "Group 2" so that you can then route
between
> > >Group
> > > > >1 &
> > > > > >Group 2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On 2004-04-26 at 10:34 PM Paul Horak wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Anybody know if you can bridge and route on the same
> > > > > > >radio (KN200 in this rather bizarre case :-))? If so,
> > > > > > >please can you share the config? Turning on routing
> > > > > > >seems to automatically deny bridging of IP traffic.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Cheers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Paul
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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