It didn't make it, can you send it to me direct. Much appreciated
Regards
Mark McKibbin
DCS Internet
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan [mailto:blsutton@airnetwifi.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:33 AM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KN50 Problem with 8.x firmware
If these 2 attachments make it thru - here are the only 2 I have...
bls
Mark McKibbin wrote:
>I can't find them on the Agere site or the Dell one
>
>Regards
>
>Mark McKibbin
>DCS Internet
>64 Queen St
>Warragul
>Victoria 3820
>Australia
>www.dcsi.net.au
>mark@team.dcsi.net.au
>Ph. 1300 665 575 (Help Desk)
>Ph. +61 356 241 120 (Direct)
>Fx. 1300 556 595
>Fx. +61 356 220 617
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Metcalf [mailto:dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:16 AM
>To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] KN50 Problem with 8.x firmware
>
>Were can I download the "firmware & flash" for the Orinoco radios?
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
>>
>>
>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
>
>
>>On Behalf Of Kevin Knuth
>>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:04 PM
>>To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] KN50 Problem with 8.x firmware
>>
>>Yes I do!
>>
>>I will forward this to engineering RIGHT AWAY!
>>
>>Kevin
>>
>>**************************************
>>Kevin R. Knuth
>>Business Development Manager
>>North America
>>260-424-9690 Regional Office
>>614-822-5275 Corporate Office
>>kknuth@karlnet.com
>>www.karlnet.com
>>**************************************
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
>>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:23 PM
>>To: Karlnet Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KN50 Problem with 8.x firmware
>>
>>
>>I've seen the same exact think on my first 3 KN-50 installs. I
>>replaced
>>the Dell cards all three times with older silvers and the links went
>>from marginally working to working perfectly.
>>
>>Karlnet....you got your ears on?
>>
>>
>>-bob
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Timothy J. Steele" <tsteele@e-isco.com>
>>To: <karlnet@wispnotes.com>
>>Cc: <support@karlnet.com>
>>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:10 PM
>>Subject: [Karlnet] KN50 Problem with 8.x firmware
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Last month there was a post to a thread from Mark McKibbin (see
>>>
>>>
>>>
>http://lists.wispnotes.com/pipermail/karlnet/2003-October/003153.html
>
>
><http://lists.wispnotes.com/pipermail/karlnet/2003-October/003146.html
>
>
>>>) in regards to the KN50 "Blackbird" units. His questions were in
>>>regards to the poor link quality of the Orinoco Gold cards and other
>>>cards that have been included with the units. We have been
>>>
>>>
>>experiencing
>>
>>
>>>similar problems (our units were purchased with Dell TrueMobile
>>>
>>>
>Radios
>
>
>>>(Agere chipset Firmware rev. 8.10.1)). I have been running tests on
>>>
>>>
>a
>
>
>>>number of different cards with the KN50. The following are the
>>>
>>>
>>results:
>>
>>
>>>NOTE: These tests were conducted on live point-to-multipoint
>>>connections. We used all the same hardware for our testing; the
>>>
>>>
>only
>
>
>>>change was the radio card for each test. The KN50 board was
>>>classified as a SOHO CPE with product v1.00-00-073017. Our average
>>>connection speed with a 1024k key is around 700-900k. The Base
>>>
>>>
>units
>
>
>>>we used for testing are using software versions 4.43 and 4.44. They
>>>have a varied number of subscribers, from 4 (a new site) up to 50+
>>>(our oldest site). On all these tests, the SNR was between 12dB and
>>>18dB upstream to Base and 21dB to 30dB downstream from Base.
>>>
>>>Dell Radio:
>>>Chipset: Agere
>>>Firmware ver.: 8.10.1
>>>PING test (a standard IP tools PING test from a PC through the Base
>>>
>>>
>to
>
>
>>>the CPE (100 packets)): 73% of the packets lost Throughput test (5
>>>bandwidth tests from 2wire.com and dslreports.com): 278, 112, 245,
>>>237, 298 (speed measured in kilobits)
>>>NOTE: The packets lost in the PING test are RARELY noted on the
>>>client side (i.e. surfing the Internet, Web Page comes up
>>>unavailable). They just notice a significant slowdown.
>>>
>>>Orinoco Gold:
>>>Chipset: Agere
>>>FW ver: 8.72.1
>>>PING test: 64% lost
>>>Throughput: 451, 368, 519, 259, 311
>>>
>>>Orinoco Silver:
>>>Chipset: Agere
>>>FW ver: 6.6.1
>>>PING test: 0% lost
>>>Throughput: 676, 574, 481, 625, 616
>>>
>>>Avaya Radio:
>>>Chipset: Agere
>>>FW ver: 6.8.1
>>>PING test: 0% lost
>>>Throughput: 550, 447, 380, 571, 561
>>>
>>>Wave Wireless Radio:
>>>Chipset: Agere
>>>FW ver: 6.8.1
>>>PING test: 1% lost
>>>Throughput: 515, 660, 674, 553, 622
>>>
>>>Demarctech Prism Radio:
>>>Chipset: Intersil (800C)
>>>FW ver: 1.3.6
>>>PING test: 3%
>>>Throughput 591, 745, 652, 733, 725
>>>
>>>At the location where we were doing the final throughput tests, an
>>>NDIS install in a local server has the following results: PING test:
>>>1% lost
>>>Throughput: 725, 989, 867, 967, 802
>>>
>>>I realize that the PING test is hardly conclusive, but it definitely
>>>coincides with the lower bandwidth connections. Does anyone else
>>>
>>>
>have
>
>
>>>similar findings? One other point of note is that the PING test on
>>>
>>>
>a
>
>
>>>unit connected to a highly utilized Base has significantly more
>>>dropped packets on the Dell and Orinoco Gold cards (i.e. The cards
>>>are noted with a 73% and 64% loss on a Base with 40+ subscribers,
>>>these numbers drop to 35% and 23% on a Base with 20 or less
>>>
>>>
>clients).
>
>
>>>This would indicate Base unit over saturation, but we can connect a
>>>standard NDIS
>>>(radio) client or a KN100 board and the PING tests and throughput
>>>
>>>
>>tests
>>
>>
>>>are excellent (0% loss, avg. 880k throughput).
>>>
>>>It appears that cards running older versions of firmware (6.x.x) do
>>>not have the problems that newer firmware (8.x.x) have; at least in
>>>regards to the KN50. I have upgraded the Orinoco Silver card to
>>>v8.7.5 firmware and it exhibits the same problems. I downgraded the
>>>firmware and the problem goes away. Our only option, at this point,
>>>is to downgrade the firmware on the newer cards or try to find older
>>>silver cards with the external antenna attachment (seeing as how the
>>>new silvers do not have them anymore).
>>>
>>>I tested the Orinoco Gold and the Dell Radio in a KN100 board with
>>>
>>>
>the
>
>
>>>following results:
>>>
>>>OG:
>>>PING test: 0% lost
>>>Throughput: 714, 784, 987, 966, 908
>>>
>>>Dell:
>>>PING Test: 1% lost
>>>Throughput: 837, 664, 843, 767, 813
>>>
>>>This looks like a problem with the KN50's and newer Agere firmware.
>>>Anytime you install 8.x firmware on any radio in the KN50,
>>>
>>>
>performance
>
>
>>>is significantly reduced and there is a high amount of IP packet
>>>failure. Our research team would like to know if anyone else
>>>
>>>
>concurs
>
>
>>>with these findings and is there a solution in the works. If not,
>>>
>>>
>is
>
>
>>>there anymore testing you would like from our end to get this issue
>>>resolved?
>>>
>>>
>>>Tim Steele & Marcus Rudd
>>>Wireless Networking Engineers
>>>e-ISCO Internet
>>>www.e-isco.com <http://www.e-isco.com/>
>>>
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>>>
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