Plus, doesn't Starlink use RF? So there is more RF in the path!
73 John AF5CC
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On Wednesday, January 7th, 2026 at 11:56 AM, Ron Koenig <k4akkron@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
> " semi-professional hybrid-communications"
> Really ? Starlink is just a wireless mic / keyer, ALL RF is on the Island.
> It's no different than if the operators were on the island and used
> Bluetooth mics.
> RF to RF.. NO Contacts over Internet, only control. The same as every
> remote station, of which there are hundreds.
> This is not new, many dxpeditions have been down with this tech, it has
> opened doors to activate places that otherwise never would be again.
>
> Ron, WV4P
>
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> > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 14:29:38 +0100
> > From: Martin Sellschopp m.sellschopp@gmail.com
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
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> > Von: Martin Sellschopp m.sellschopp@gmail.com
> > Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
> > Subject: Expeditions remote
> > To: cq-contest-request@contesting.com
> >
> > I just read a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
> > that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates it
> > remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
> > still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
> >
> > The same for Contest activities. Will we have remote stations set up at
> > favorable locations and a team of operators spread out worldwide operating
> > it ?
> >
> > Best 73's and good dx in 2026
> > Martin
> > DK3UW
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2026 15:00:00 +0100
> > From: SQ6MS Maciek sq6ms@o2.pl
> > To: cq contest cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Odp: Fwd: Expeditions remote
> > Message-ID: 23e2d0f5b8484bb39e14e86174ac1db4@grupawp.pl
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> > It is not the future. It is reality.? Vy73`s de Maciek F4VSQ/SQ6MS Dnia
> > 07 stycznia 2026 14:39 Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
> > napisa?(a): ---------- Forwarded message --------- Von: Martin Sellschopp
> > <m.sellschopp@gmail.com> Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
> > Subject: Expeditions remote To: <cq-contest-request@contesting.com>
> > I just read ?a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
> > that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates it
> > remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
> > still in the spirit of a DXCC ? The same for Contest activities. Will we
> > have remote stations set up at favorable locations and a team of operators
> > spread out worldwide operating it ? Best 73's and good dx in 2026
> > Martin DK3UW _______________________________________________ CQ-Contest
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 09:13:38 -0500
> > From: Ria Jairam rjairam@gmail.com
> > To: Martin Sellschopp m.sellschopp@gmail.com
> > Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
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> > RIBs are the future. This isn?t the era of Don Miller or Romeo where they
> > didn?t have radios on the entity. This has been done a few times and now we
> > have the tech to do so including remote, starlink and solid state amps.
> >
> > This doesn?t mean traditional tent and generator expeditions aren?t going
> > to happen anymore. But a RIB can mean the difference between an activation
> > and no activation.
> >
> > This activation is within the rules - 500 meter circle, all on the same
> > entity and land based. As a bonus it minimizes human contact for sensitive
> > ecological areas.
> >
> > Ria
> > N2RJ
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 8:59?AM Martin Sellschopp m.sellschopp@gmail.com
> > wrote:
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> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > Von: Martin Sellschopp m.sellschopp@gmail.com
> > > Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
> > > Subject: Expeditions remote
> > > To: cq-contest-request@contesting.com
> > >
> > > I just read a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
> > > that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates
> > > it
> > > remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
> > > still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
> > >
> > > The same for Contest activities. Will we have remote stations set up at
> > > favorable locations and a team of operators spread out worldwide
> > > operating
> > > it ?
> > >
> > > Best 73's and good dx in 2026
> > > Martin
> > > DK3UW
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 14:29:20 +0000
> > From: Paul O'Kane pokane@ei5di.com
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
> > Message-ID: d2fd6e12-2a3c-465b-a336-507efa455cff@ei5di.com
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> > On 07/01/2026 13:29, Martin Sellschopp wrote:
> >
> > > I just read a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
> > > that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates
> > > it
> > > remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
> > > still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
> >
> > Of course it's in the spirit of DXCC, isn't it simply
> > station-to-station?communications over RF?
> >
> > After all, we all know and accept that telephone contacts take place
> > between telephone instruments.? Who needs people?
> >
> > On the other hand, not a single QSO with KP5 will be possible without
> > 100% dependence on Starlink for each and every contact. Since amateur
> > radio QSOs, by definition (my definition), are person-to-person,
> > ham-band-RF-all-the-way contacts with no dependence on commercial
> > communications utilities, it follows that all contacts with KP5 will be
> > something other than ham radio? - I'd suggest "semi-professional
> > hybrid-communications" contacts.
> >
> > Apparently, DXCC and contest sponsors are happy to
> > accept?semi-professional hybrid-communications contacts as being
> > equivalent, in all respects, to amateur radio QSOs.? They should think
> > again.
> >
> > 73,
> > Paul EI5DI
> >
> > ps - The race is on!? Who will be the first to qualify for the DXCC 10k
> > Challenge?
> > http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-06/msg00261.html
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