" semi-professional hybrid-communications"
Really ? Starlink is just a wireless mic / keyer, ALL RF is on the Island.
It's no different than if the operators were on the island and used
Bluetooth mics.
RF to RF.. NO Contacts over Internet, only control. The same as every
remote station, of which there are hundreds.
This is not new, many dxpeditions have been down with this tech, it has
opened doors to activate places that otherwise never would be again.
Ron, WV4P
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> I just read a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
> that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates it
> remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
> still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
>
> The same for Contest activities. Will we have remote stations set up at
> favorable locations and a team of operators spread out worldwide operating
> it ?
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> Best 73's and good dx in 2026
> Martin
> DK3UW
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> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2026 15:00:00 +0100
> From: SQ6MS Maciek <sq6ms@o2.pl>
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> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Odp: Fwd: Expeditions remote
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> It is not the future. It is reality.? Vy73`s de Maciek F4VSQ/SQ6MS Dnia
> 07 stycznia 2026 14:39 Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
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> <m.sellschopp@gmail.com> Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
> Subject: Expeditions remote To: <cq-contest-request@contesting.com>
> I just read ?a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
> that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates it
> remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
> still in the spirit of a DXCC ? The same for Contest activities. Will we
> have remote stations set up at favorable locations and a team of operators
> spread out worldwide operating it ? Best 73's and good dx in 2026
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> From: Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com>
> To: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
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> RIBs are the future. This isn?t the era of Don Miller or Romeo where they
> didn?t have radios on the entity. This has been done a few times and now we
> have the tech to do so including remote, starlink and solid state amps.
>
> This doesn?t mean traditional tent and generator expeditions aren?t going
> to happen anymore. But a RIB can mean the difference between an activation
> and no activation.
>
> This activation is within the rules - 500 meter circle, all on the same
> entity and land based. As a bonus it minimizes human contact for sensitive
> ecological areas.
>
> Ria
> N2RJ
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> On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 8:59?AM Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > Von: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
> > Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
> > Subject: Expeditions remote
> > To: <cq-contest-request@contesting.com>
> >
> >
> > I just read a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
> > that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates
> it
> > remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
> > still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
> >
> > The same for Contest activities. Will we have remote stations set up at
> > favorable locations and a team of operators spread out worldwide
> operating
> > it ?
> >
> > Best 73's and good dx in 2026
> > Martin
> > DK3UW
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> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 14:29:20 +0000
> From: Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
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> On 07/01/2026 13:29, Martin Sellschopp wrote:
> > I just read a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
> > that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates
> it
> > remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
> > still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
>
> Of course it's in the spirit of DXCC, isn't it simply
> station-to-station?communications over RF?
>
> After all, we all know and accept that telephone contacts take place
> between telephone instruments.? Who needs people?
>
> On the other hand, not a single QSO with KP5 will be possible without
> 100% dependence on Starlink for each and every contact. Since amateur
> radio QSOs, by definition (my definition), are person-to-person,
> ham-band-RF-all-the-way contacts with no dependence on commercial
> communications utilities, it follows that all contacts with KP5 will be
> something other than ham radio? - I'd suggest "semi-professional
> hybrid-communications" contacts.
>
> Apparently, DXCC and contest sponsors are happy to
> accept?semi-professional hybrid-communications contacts as being
> equivalent, in all respects, to amateur radio QSOs.? They should think
> again.
>
> 73,
> Paul EI5DI
>
> ps - The race is on!? Who will be the first to qualify for the DXCC 10k
> Challenge?
> http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-06/msg00261.html
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