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Re: [CQ-Contest] A bit of quantum mechanics

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A bit of quantum mechanics
From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 17:36:44 -0600
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Also, the energy propagating down a transmission line is by an
electromagnetic field in whatever dielectric is between the two parts of a
transmission line. For the twinlead that we use, it's mostly in air. For
coax, it's in the dielectric between the center lead and shield. Electrons
move VERY slowly down wires. Electromagnetic waves move somewhat more
slowly in a dielectric than in air or free space, hence the velocity factor
of coax.

73, Zack W9SZ

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On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 3:27 PM Drew Vonada-Smith <drew@whisperingwoods.org>
wrote:

> Charlie,
>
> In case you are serious - there is no wear.  Electrons are not emitted.
> The energy emitted are in the form of photons, the same as light.
>
> 73, Drew K3PA
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> From: "Charles H. Harpole" <hs0zcw@gmail.com>
> To: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>,   "Charles H.
>         Harpole (Charly)" <hs0zcw@gmail.com>
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> RF of some ham frequency composed of electrons emit from an emitter, the
> transmitter, and go up the feed line to the aluminum antenna yagi above. I
> think the electric energy that travels in the feed line is traveling by
> electrons-- I. E. Matter (in traditional physics).
> However, when the matter in those electrons flows into the aluminum of the
> antenna, the RF energy is emitted in the form of a wave (via quantum
> theory),
> I want to ask, does the aluminum lose any electrons into some other medium,
> like free air, and thus is there some small *wear and tear* on an aluminum
> antenna being used for transmission?
>
> In my deep ignorance that is my first question and because I'm on the site,
> I decided to add a question below.
>
> Because quantum mechanics tells us that some amount of electrons are
> emitted that do go "backward" downward towards the radio which may or may
> not be in the form of RF, but if it is--it should be detectable by a
> receiver which would have to be receiving at the same time as the
> transmission test was being emitted (unfortunate result but manageable).
> Further, at an appropriate distance, would some receiver hear both the
> transmission and the transmission from the effect of the excitation???
> Would the "secondary emission" be near the same frequency as the "primary
> RF"--- perhaps you could work stations answering that secondary
> emission????
>
> Not knowing anything allows me to complain about the idea that a beam of
> light is a quanta (quantum) of both "regular" electrons and waving
> electrons. That irritates me. And I am waiting for science to help me out.
>
> If I use the pattern of idea development from the previous century, I would
> say I have to wait till the end of this century for the good ideas to
> become published. Seems like the good ideas over history come out near the
> end of a century. Being age 81 now, my prospects are not real good.
>
> Thank you all for helping me and letting me be on this site with my
> questions. I need some brotherhood every now and then.   Ham radio is the
> best way to go.
>
> 73, Charly HS0ZCW
>
>
> --
> Charly, HS0ZCW
>
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