there will be enough participants chasing the award that spotting will
occur anyway, I think its a non-issue.....
------ Original Message ------
From "Edward Sawyer" <EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>
To "Jack Brindle" <jackbrindle@me.com>
Cc "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Date 6/27/2023 4:36:32 PM
Subject Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Countdown Is On (K3ZJ
Jack – its worse than that actually. The organizers will apparently scan the bands
for SSB signals and spot them for the competitors. Kind of like a manual SSB CW
skimmer…
Ed N1UR
From: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle@me.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 4:30 PM
To: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Countdown Is On (K3ZJ
Ed;
It appears that you are saying that self-spotting is allowed for the WRTC
participants. Where do you get this? The Competition Rules at
https://www.wrtc2022.it/en/competition-rules-29.asp seem to explicitly outlaw
this. What are we missing?
73,
Jack, W6FB
On Jun 27, 2023, at 1:58 PM, Edward Sawyer
<EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com<mailto:EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>> wrote:
Sorry but activating a callsign block is not the same as broadcasting them
continually over the cluster when no one else can do it.
Such decisions should not even be the sole responsibility of WRTC – they should be
overlaying passively – not hijacking.
Ed N1UR
From: Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com<mailto:richnn3w@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 2:54 PM
To: Edward Sawyer
<EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com<mailto:EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>>
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Countdown Is On (K3ZJ
Kind of like how using a callsign block that had not been activated in nearly
30 years was re-opened up just for WRTC? Nobody complained an ounce then - in
fact it was lauded. That certainly detracted from working other stations.
73 Rich NN3W
On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 2:16 PM Edward Sawyer
<EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com<mailto:EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com><mailto:EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>>
wrote:
Hi Rich. However, you are affecting the scores of other participants by
pulling Qs away with a tool that is not allowed by others. As an example, if a
record was possible, and scores are lower, this is an unacceptable outcome for
a group hijacking a contest. No longer overlaying, but selfishly influencing.
Its just not acceptable in my opinion.
Ed N1UR
From: Richard F DiDonna NN3W
<richnn3w@gmail.com<mailto:richnn3w@gmail.com><mailto:richnn3w@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 2:13 PM
To: Edward Sawyer
<EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com<mailto:EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com><mailto:EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>>
Cc:
cq-contest@contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com><mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Countdown Is On (K3ZJ
I mean we're only competing with ourselves within the shell of the IARU contest
so I don't see what the big deal is. We're scored differently, we're
categorized differently, etc.
73 Rich NN3W
On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 1:30 PM Edward Sawyer
<EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com<mailto:EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com><mailto:EdwardS@advanced-conversion.com>>
wrote:
Thanks for this interesting info. There has been virtually nothing relayed by
the WRTC Committee to the outside world on what is going to happen there. No
site information and obviously no mention of drastic inclusions like patronage
self-spotting.
Personally, I think that self-spotting on SSB (which in my opinion is seriously wrong to
hijack an on-going contest in this way) when no one else competing can do so within the
rules, is completely out of bounds. To "overlay yourself" onto a competition
for another purpose is one thing - which I have no objection to. However, to actually
then introduce interaction which will PULL Qs from the normal contest participants in
favor of your overlay is unsportsmanlike and unethical.
This is a serious mistake in my opinion and a very dangerous precedent being
set. I implore the WRTC group to not do this. Even the HQ stations are not
allowed to self-spot in this contest.
Ed N1UR
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