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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Time to update contest club eligibility rules to accommodate remotes?
From: "Naumann, Robert, W5OV" <w5ov@arrl.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 21:01:19 +0000
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Jim,

What you're describing as a "waiting trap" is no longer true.  That issue was 
resolved by ARRL this past summer.

Station and Equipment Restrictions 

STTN.1. A transmitter used to contact one or more stations may not be 
subsequently used under any other call sign during the contest period, except 

        a) for family stations where more than one call has been issued, and 
then only if the second call sign is used by a different operator.              
      < as it always was

        b) for remote stations used by individual amateurs that have limited or 
no access to their own stations.                            <  New this year
        This rule does not permit any operator to use multiple calls at the 
same station to manufacture contacts to another 
        station in the contest. 

73,

Bob 

Robert E. Naumann  W5OV
Director of Operations
ARRL
1(860) 594-0234
W5OV@arrl.org


-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+w5ov=arrl.org@contesting.com> On Behalf Of 
K8MR via CQ-Contest
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 10:21
To: w2up.co@gmail.com; cqk1ar@gmail.com
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Time to update contest club eligibility rules to 
accommodate remotes?

So we won't need to listen to all those California clubs complaining about DX 
contests. They just need to suck up every east coast remote station!   :-)

Though the ARRL rules still have a waiting trap for people using remote 
stations: under their rules if more than one person uses a remote station (as a 
single op) during a contest, their entries are disqualified by the one 
transmitter/one callsign rule.


73  -  Jim   K8MR


-----Original Message-----
From: Barry W2UP <w2up.co@gmail.com>
To: John Dorr <cqk1ar@gmail.com>
Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 30, 2021 7:44 am
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Time to update contest club eligibility rules to 
accommodate remotes?

Tnx John.

I was confusing it with ARRL and someone else confirmed that my confusion was 
correct.  NOW I get it.  Tnx!

Barry W2UP

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 4:08 AM John Dorr <cqk1ar@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Barry,
>
> You have this partially correct. The club rules allow for you to count 
> your apportioned part of the W4RN score for GMCC. Operating remotely 
> has nothing to do with the scoring. You are correct, however, that you 
> would not be able to contribute to FRC as you no longer permanently 
> reside within their club territory.
>
> As I see it, there's nothing to fix here.
>
> 73, John, K1AR
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:37 AM Barry W2UP <w2up.co@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I (FRC member residing outside the circle, and GMCC member residing 
>> inside the circle) operated CQWW CW remotely from W4RN (FRC member 
>> within the FRC circle).  My score counts for neither club.
>>
>> Barry W2UP
>
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