| As one of the organizers and operators of the RBN, I shudder at the 
thought of trying to manage an opt-out system. Our servers are already 
stressed during major contests, and the idea of passing every spot 
through a filter against a list of don't-spot-mes before it is 
disseminated, as well as the administrative load of accepting, listing, 
updating and deleting calls from the list, is not how any of us want to 
spend our time. 
I doubt that there are very many people who share your downside view of 
being spotted. At worst, it seems to me you get multiple callers at 
once, which is a bit more work, or rather handling them is a skill we 
should try to develop.  I think there's even an upside - people who make 
use of spots and tools like the N1MM Spectrum Display will realize that 
you are running on a frequency, and will tend to avoid it when looking 
for a place to CQ themselves. 
73, Pete N4ZR
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On 8/23/2021 4:01 PM, Joe wrote:
 
As someone who has zero clue as to how the RBN system works.
I can surely tell when one grabs me, I see it in N1MM and then 
suddenly the freq, well I can say some times I'm happy it spotted me 
and others well you see the spot come through and know shortly the 
freq is gonna go to hell. 
I wonder, if the RBN's could be made to work with a call list of who 
wants to be spotted, 
This way the RBN has a list of clean calls to work with.  if it copies 
something on the list is tells everyone. if it does not have a match 
then it ignores it. 
This cures the bad copy problem, AND for those that do NOT want to be 
spotted for the above mentioned reason, they can make sure their call 
is not on the official list so they won't get spotted. 
Possible?
Thoughts?
etc...
Joe WB9SBD
On 8/23/2021 12:50 PM, w1rm@comcast.net wrote:
 Now this is going to sound odd coming from a die-hard CW guy but as 
one who
sips the cup of RBN CW spots, I can tell you there is need for a lot of
improvement in that technology.  Voice RBN would be scary!  If there 
were
voice RBN actually put into production I would hope the stations who 
relay 
those spots offer the ability to turn them off!
I know there have been attempts to better filter CW RBN and yet I 
still see
a lot of broken CW spots.  Broken because they are inaccurate. CW RBN 
does
not have any real intelligence yet so spots for things like EZ get 
through 
(E7 ops probably sending way too fast or badly), even though there is no
legal hamming in EZ.  I see a lot of spots for TN's too, but they are 
broken 
calls thanks to less that proper sending.
I have done enough SSB contesting to know how hard it is to pull the 
correct
call out, especially when the op on the other side doesn't speak 
clearly,
has muffled or distorted audio, has massive background noise or echo, 
just
to name a few of the challenges.  My hat's off to those of you who 
operate
phone contests and do it well.  The folks who do DXpeditions are even 
more 
to be congratulated!
This one needs to be done like great BBQ, low and slow (:->)
Pete Chamalian, W1RM
W1rm@comcast.net
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