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Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting and the FT8 Revolution

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contesting and the FT8 Revolution
From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 15:29:20 -0400
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Dave,

With all due respect there are other lists that are dedicated to digital modes that this subject can be discussed. It doesn't appear that contesting.com has a digital reflector anymore ( see http://lists.contesting.com/) but Groups.io does. See https://groups.io/g/digitalcontesting I bet lots of people like me are tired of all the posts about FT8 on the contest reflector. There are lists for VHF contesting and top band on contesting.com and you don't see those people posting their gripes on CQ-Contest. Since FT8 is also specialized mode it should be discussed on a digital reflector and not a general contesting reflector. Please note I'm not anti-FT8. I operate it all the time on 6 meters and some of the HF bands because no one seems to operate CW or SSB outside a contest.

BTW your quote " a mode SIMILAR to FT8 or FT4 but with a different interface and some different parameters could and should be an excellent contesting mode i/f it was done properly by somebody who was smart enough and cared enough to do it/. " seems to be disrespectful towards Joe Taylor, K1JT. You're aware he is a Nobel Prize laureate in Physics among other honors? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Hooton_Taylor_Jr.)  I'm sure he could easily do what you suggest but have you ever thought that he didn't envision FT8 to be used for contesting?

Jeff

On 7/3/2021 02:57 PM, David Gilbert wrote:


The answer to your question ... for the umpteenth time ... is that a mode SIMILAR to FT8 or FT4 but with a different interface and some different parameters could and should be an excellent contesting mode if it was done properly by somebody who was smart enough and cared enough to do it.  That you and the majority of hams seem to think as you do is why it isn't likely to ever happen, but that doesn't make it a complete shame that it won't.

Dave   AB7E



On 7/3/2021 9:36 AM, Jeff Clarke wrote:
Again for the umpteenth time... Why are people talking about this subject on a CONTESTING reflector? Neither FT8 or FT4 are contesting modes. I guess this is more proof that FT8 has totally taken over ham radio? I guess people are really bored and can't help themselves? Hello Mr Moderator can you please tell people to stop!

Jeff

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