Well
Man have QTH out of coverage area of internet and primitive QTH...
Those are not welcomed in SAC anymore..Coz must competite in high end contest
QTH is requirement.
Not a gentleman, but luxury club
Nail in the pain and end of SAC for many who never choosen Assisted.
Best Regards,
Stein-Roar Brobakken
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> 23. aug. 2020 kl. 20:47 skrev Mats Strandberg <sm6lrr@gmail.com>:
>
> Barry,
>
> Yes, it is true, I might operate Unassisted as a choice, but it will NOT
> make me in place for one of the plaques.
>
> And I have been operating SAC seriously for many years and won several
> European Continental Winner plaques. I have good reasons to evaluate how
> much Assisted or Non-Assisted means in this contest, and there is huge
> difference.
>
> Paul might not have worked SAC as much as others, but I like his analytics
> and reasoning. I could have used exactly the same arguments, to this email
> is great support of his view. On every sing;le aspect, including the wish
> that SAC CC swallow the reality and agree that this is was a mistake, and
> that this mistake is not rectified simply because they allow people to add
> the letter N as an indication that they worked without the assistance.
>
> The effort of winning SAC from outside Scandinavia is many times bigger if
> not using assistance. You need to find the casual Scandinavians that maybe
> only work 50 contacts or less. You need to manage to move them from one
> band to the other, by estimating conditions and likelihood that the contact
> on another band will be possible. You need to look for the odd openings and
> not just let others find them and then like a swarm of bees, 50 other
> stations will get the same benefit when the cluster announces that odd
> opening.
>
> I am very hesitant to be part of the click euphoria that the new SAC CC
> rules are dictating. Before, 60% of the non Scandinavians had to personally
> look for the station. Now, all of them will be served on a golden tray.
> Not interesting at all - I have tested Assisted in SAC 2019 to get a full
> understanding of that reality too. This year I had already decided to work
> unassisted again, but now I am seriously considering not to work at all,
> until SAC CC changes back to the same rules that 60% favoured in 2019.
>
> As Paul expressed, there is still a chance for the committee to listen to
> the customers: Remove this rule or any of the emergency modifications
> imposed as some sort of bad compromise. There are many (the majority) that
> disagree with the decision of SAC CC to remove unassisted.
>
> 73 de Mats RM2D (SM6LRR)
>
>
>
>
>
> Den sön 23 aug. 2020 kl 18:29 skrev Barry W2UP <w2up.co@gmail.com>:
>
>> Nobody is saying someone can't operate unassisted if they so choose.
>> Scores over the years have shown it's not necessarily an advantage.
>> Paul, you can also log on paper and a straight key, if you'd like.
>>
>> Barry W2UP
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 9:04 AM Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23/08/2020 01:05, David Gilbert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Given a choice I generally prefer unassisted operation myself,
>>>
>>> That's my point - the "SAC folks" have unilaterally removed that choice
>>> - and dressed it up as "allowing for assistance in all categories". A
>>> fine example of doublespeak.
>>>
>>>> but that seems like a lot of umbrage
>>>
>>> Umbrage? Hardly - it's a complaint on principle, and on behalf of the
>>> clear majority of single-op entrants in the 2019 CW SAC contest who
>>> chose to operate Unassisted, who were not consulted about the change,
>>> and who will be denied the choice in 2020.
>>>
>>> Scandinavia: Unassisted 130, Assisted 56 - 70% unassisted.
>>> Non-Scandinavia: Unassisted 527, Assisted 340 - 61% unassisted.
>>>
>>>> toward the folks doing all the work
>>>
>>> That's my point. They may have been doing all the work, but they're
>>> proposing not to do it in future. The work includes a rigorous check of
>>> the logs of the leading Unassisted entrants - to verify their status.
>>> It seems the SAC folks (the Contest Committee) are no longer prepared to
>>> do this, and are thereby reneging on their responsibilities.
>>>
>>>> ... The SAC folks don't owe you (or me) anything.
>>>
>>> Really? Then let's turn it around a little. If the CQ WW or the ARRL
>>> DX Contest Committees unilaterally "allowed for assistance in all
>>> classes", would anyone still say they don't owe you (or me) anything?
>>> They simply wouldn't get away with it - and neither should the SAC
>>> Contest Committee.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Paul EI5DI
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dave AB7E
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/21/2020 3:43 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
>>>>> On 21/08/2020 21:06, SM5AJV wrote:
>>>>>> UPDATE
>>>>>> After publishing the rules for SAC 2020 we have got some reactions on
>>>>>> allowing for assistance in all operator categories.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Allowing for assistance in all operator categories" may be true, but
>>>>> it is not the whole truth. What you (the SAC Committee) have done is
>>>>> abolish the SO Unassisted category. This benefits no one but you -
>>>>> the contest sponsors.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason behind the
>>>>>> change is that we want to reduce the number of operator categories
>> and
>>>>>> plaques.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is nonsense. I see no evidence of a shortage of plaque donors
>>>>> for SO Unassisted. Again, reducing the number of operator categories
>>>>> benefits no one but you - the contest sponsors.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The reduction will also make the log handling and checking easier
>>>>>> for the log checker.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's true - but it also represents an abdication of responsibility
>>>>> for verifying that the leading unassisted entries actually were
>>>>> unassisted, for which there are long-standing and well-established
>>>>> techniques. Did anyone on the Committee contact the sponsors of the
>>>>> major contests (CQ, ARRL, IARU) to see how they do it? I suspect not.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to recognize operators that prefer not using any assistance
>> we
>>>>>> have decided that you are able to state if you operated without any
>>>>>> assistance when submitting the log. Operators who participate without
>>>>>> assistance will be marked with (N) after the call in the ranking
>> lists.
>>>>>
>>>>> That looks like a cop-out to me. I invite the SAC Contest Committee
>>>>> to address its responsibilities and reinstate SO Unassisted now -
>>>>> before the contests next month.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Paul EI5DI
>>>>>
>>>
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