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Re: [CQ-Contest] Clean Sweep - a short history

To: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>, CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Clean Sweep - a short history
From: "steve.root" <steve.root@culligan4water.com>
Reply-to: "steve.root" <steve.root@culligan4water.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 13:27:21 -0500 (EST)
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
I've said it before and I'll say it again.  Zip code 55075 should be a 
multiplier in every contest.

73 Steve K0SR

> On January 4, 2020 at 1:41 PM Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Jeff and all,
> 
> The creation of new sections by ARRL (or RAC) is not driven by the contest 
> community.  Usually it is driven by a desire of the broad membership to gain 
> better “localization” in the organization.  A new mult for the contesters is 
> only a side effect.
> 
> Regarding the theme of “consistency”, every contest has different roots.  SS 
> was created by traffic handlers.  The exchange was modeled after the ARRL 
> message header which includes “Section of Origin”, thus SEC became the 
> multiplier.  Regarding the mults in other ARRL contests, well, “on the other 
> hand you have different fingers” designing the competition.
> 
> Your comment about the size of the Minnesota section is interesting.  At one 
> point there were 4 Sections in the Dakota Division.  North Dakota, South 
> Dakota, Northern Minnesota, and Southern Minnesota.  Some years ago, the two 
> MN sections were combined to a single MN section, and an SS multiplier was 
> lost.  I don’t know the reason for that combining, but from time-to-time we 
> hear sentiment for splitting MINNESOTA into two sections, “Metro MN” and 
> “Outstate MN”, not for any reason that affects contesting directly, but 
> because the “outstate” general membership feels that Section policy is 
> dominated by the metro hams at the expense of rural hams.
> 
> Should that split ever occur, a byproduct would be that a ham in the little 
> town of Resume Speed, MN would be more popular than a guy in Minneapolis.  So 
> goes it.
> 
> 
> 
> 73, de Hans, KØHB
> “Just a Boy and his Radio”
> 
> ________________________________
> From: ku8e <ku8e@ku8e.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:33 AM
> To: Hans Brakob; CQ-Contest
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Clean Sweep - a short history
> 
> Hans,
> 
> Something you left out is creating some of these new sections gives people 
> who reside there a competitive advantage. Take for example NNY. New York is 
> one of the most populous states in the country but that part of the state is 
> less populated which probably means less hams. If someone gets on from a 
> section like that they get big pileups of stations trying to work them. There 
> are lots of people whose only goal is to only work a sweep in Sweepstakes.  
> So if you live in a highly populated section like EPA or MDC those stations 
> might not work you.
> 
> Like many others mentioned the ARRL is very inconsistent how they choose 
> sections. I made an argument in another post that maybe Georgia, where I 
> live, should be split into two sections. We have the 8th largest population 
> in the US. Many might not realize that Georgia has the largest land mass of 
> any state east of the Mississippi. You could also make an argument for 
> Minnesota, where you live. Your number 21 in population but are 14th in land 
> mass. That means MN is bigger than states like WA, NY, MA, PA and NJ that 
> have multiple sections. Texas has only three sections and is the biggest 
> state on the US mainland plus number two in population. California in 
> comparison has NINE sections. Florida like Texas has three sections but it's 
> population is almost 8 million less and it's land mass is smaller. Just too 
> many inconsistencies in my opinion
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>
> Date: 1/4/20 10:16 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clean Sweep - a short history
> 
> There is discussion in another thread over a new Section in RAC which results 
> in a new mult in ARRL’s November SS weekends.
> 
> The reason for this linkage seems not well understood by some.
> 
> This linkage stems from the fact that Canada, up until about 40 years ago, 
> was a Division of ARRL, with a Division Director and was subdivided into 
> Sections just like other Divisions.  Just like some USA sections sometimes do 
> not encompass a full state/territory (several states consist of more than one 
> section) or a single state/territory (PAC division consists of a state, a 
> territory, and some other possessions), not all Canadian sections are a 
> complete province (think ON) or encompass more than a single 
> province/territory (think VE8/VY1/Et al).
> 
> Since SS has always used Sections as mults, and since CRRL/RAC continues to 
> be organized by Section, then a new Section in either ARRL or in RAC will 
> generate a new mult in November SS.
> 
> And all of that aside, why would a contester have angst over more multipliers 
> and the obvious opportunity for higher scores?
> 
> 73, de Hans, KØHB
> “Just a Boy and his Radio”
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