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Re: [CQ-Contest] Moral outrage

To: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Moral outrage
From: "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:45:09 -0500
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>Anything you can't hear with your human ears
>isn't real radio. At least with digital modes such
>as RTTY you can hear something.

To me it’s wonderful that radio amateurs have developed tech that can
decode signals below the noise floor. This is truly advancing the radio
art. Just like when they discovered that frequencies 200 meters and down
were useful.

Ria
N2RJ


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 11:14 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote:

> Anything you can't hear with your human ears isn't real radio. At least
> with digital modes such as RTTY you can hear something. In many FT8
> contacts the signal might be as much as 20db below the noise. I'm not
> against FT8. In fact I worked my last mainland state, South Carolina, on
> 6 meters using FT8. But it isn't a contesting mode since it takes a
> minute or more to make a QSO. In any digital contest why would you even
> go to FT8 when there seems to be plenty of people to work using regular
> RTTY?  The top scorers in the recent ARRL RTTY Roundup made over 2000
> QSO's and had zero FT8 contacts.
>
> It's also puzzling to me that a contest such as Winter Field Day is
> getting so much attention. I never realized it was such a major contest
> that someone would be gripping about the rules on the contest reflector.
> I would suggest those of you who think FT8 is the next greatest thing in
> contesting to just go and sponsor a FT8 only contest. It's clear to me
> that those who are sponsoring contests might agree with what I'm saying
> and that's why they aren't adding FT8 to their contest.
>
> Jeff
>
> On 1/17/2019 11:10 AM, Ria Jairam wrote:
> > There’s really no comparison.
> >
> > There is **NO** accusation whatsoever that SSTV is “not real radio” or
> “computers talking to computers” or “destroying ham radio.”
> >
> > ALL of these claims have been leveled against FT8, rather unfairly I
> must add.
> >
> >
> > Ria
> > N2RJ
> >
> >> On Jan 17, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Radio K0HB <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I intend to boycott the California QSO Party.
> >>
> >> SSTV cannot participate.
> >>
> >> Do you think they’ll miss me?
> >>
> >> 73, de Hans, K0HB
> >>
> >> --
> >> 73, de Hans, K0HB
> >> --
> >> "Just a boy and his radio"™
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> *Jeff Clarke*
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> Ellerslie, Georgia
>
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