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Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1
From: "Richard F. DiDonna NN3W" <richnn3w@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:07:09 -0500
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Actually, the World Bank rules may prevent AJ3M from using his personal callsign at the World Bank Station.  Some clubs require that you use the club call while using club equipment.

73 Rich NN3W


On 2/15/2018 10:18 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote:
Actually, if you look at spots for 4U1WB when Masa operates outside of contests 
– he generates A LOT of interest because of the unusual situation and 
uniqueness of 4U1WB.  When I operate as AC1U, I generate no such special interest.

Nothing prevents Masa from legally using AJ3M at the WB station.  It’s a duly licensed FCC 
radio operator operating a station in the US.  There are no “station licenses” in the 
US.  Only operators in locations.

If the point of being on this weekend is to hand out DC, he would be way better 
off being AJ3M than 4U1WB.  The opposite is the case in WPX.

73

Ed  N1UR

From: David Siddall [mailto:hhamwv@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:49 AM
To: cq-contest
Cc: Ria Jairam; sawyered@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1

Come on, Ed, you know better.  In WPX, there is no advantage of using 4U1 over, 
say, AC1.

Masa's main station is 4U1WB, whether its WPX or any other contest.  N1UR, on 
the other hand, became AC1U for the two weekends and was the only AC1 in the 
same contests.  K3ZJ became WR8AA in a part-time effort on one of the weekends 
too.  All three of us were on equal ground callsign-wise.  We each used a 
callsign that, at least for entries, had a unique prefix.

But among us, only Masa used the everyday normal callsign for the station he 
operates from.  And you were the only one to make a serious competitive effort.

BTW, had Masa operated elsewhere and used his personal callsign (AJ3M), it also 
would have been a unique callsign in both modes.

There is nothing wrong with any of this, but I would conclude that you used a 
rare callsign to gain a competitive advantage; I used one to give out a mult 
during my limited time on the air;  and Masa just used the callsign of the 
station he operated, as he usually does.

So to say that "it does not seem fair"  is, to me, twisted.  Masa just did his 
normal thing at his normal station.  You did not.

73, Dave

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:43 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:

You can put in the effort to improve antennas and location.  But no matter how much 
effort you put in, you can’t make up a call sign like 4U1WB.  It has to be 
bestowed on you.



In the ARRL DX contest – its of no value – in fact its clearly a hinderence.  Being 
right, but having to repeat and explain is a contest killer.  But in WPX, no one cares where you are 
(other than wondering why the points for the Q don’t look right), they just know they need a 
new prefix.  Add that to the fact that some percentage of callers probably think they just worked a 
new one (4U1 must be UN HQ no?) and its just not good sportsmanship in my opinion.



4U1WB and any other 4U1 should compete for NA not for W.



73



Ed  N1UR



From: rjairam@gmail.com [mailto:rjairam@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:26 AM
To: sawyered@earthlink.net
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1



Fair? Nothing is fair... might as well require everyone to operate with the same 
antennas and location while you’re at it.

Ria
N2RJ

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:23 AM Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:

Masa, Why don't you just get a W3 call sign and avoid this mess?  You will
never be competitive in ARRL DX having to explain who you are.  I am sure
that many DX stations would be very happy to work a W3 from DC.



As to WPX, a 4U1 callsign is clearly an advantage in a Prefix contest.  It
does  not seem fair to me that a 4U1 can compete equally with a W1 in the
WPX contest.



Ed  N1UR

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