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Re: [CQ-Contest] Why was 4U1WB Disqualified in the CQ WPX Contest?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why was 4U1WB Disqualified in the CQ WPX Contest?
From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: k9yc@arrl.net
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 11:59:12 -0700
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Exactly right!  And thank you for pointing out these obvious contradictions, Fred.

AND, more to the point, in WPX, why does the station working 4U1 need to know where it is located?   Everyone works everyone, and prefixes are multipliers, not countries.  The location of 4U1 or TOnxx affects only the value of the contact, and log checking software can certainly figure that out.

And for CQWW, the location of these stations allows logging software to autofill the zone, so that the operator doesn't even have to copy it!

73, Jim K9YC

On 10/28/2017 10:38 AM, Fred Kleber wrote:
OK, so if I follow Terry's logic correctly for rule V.C.1 (see below), what about the TO#* 
calls which are issued by France, but the DXCC entity can not be determined?  Let's take 
TO1A for example.  Does this mean if someone signed TO1A in a CQ contest from outside of 
France, they run the risk of being DQ'd?  For example:

TO1A versus:
FG/TO1AFH/TO1AFJ/TO1A
FK/TO1AFM/TO1AFO/TO1AFP/TO1A
FR/TO1AFW/TO1A

FY/TO1A
...or how about VK9AA?  Can't tell what entity that's from.  ...or how about 
VK0 (Heard, Macquarie, or Antarctica?)...or how about 3Y (Bouvet or Peter 1st?
73,Fred, K9VV, um wait, I mean K9VV/KP2
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Terry Zivney<n4tz@arrl.net>  wrote:

? Why was 4U1WB Disqualified in the CQ WPX Contest?

As Masa, AJ3M, noted in his posting about the
disqualification of 4U1WB in the 2017 CQ WPX SSB
contest, I informed him that:
<snip> ...> Since 4U1 prefixes can be in multiple countries, rule V.C.1 would 
also
apply.
The DXCC list includes 4U1UN and 4U1ITU as separate entities. So, the 4U1
prefix does not denote the country of operation. This rule states:

"A station operating from a DXCC entity different from that indicated
by its call sign is required to sign portable." Because the 4U1WB callsign
does not reflect the DXCC entity of USA, it is required to sign portable.


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