That is an interesting idea Chuck, but I think that 4U1UN and 4U1WB could
be counted as 1 entity, because due to the DXCC rules, the physical
separation between them (more than 75 miles) would them separate entities.
Same for 4U1ITU and 4U1VIC.
73 John AF5CC
On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck Dietz <w5prchuck@gmail.com> wrote:
> 4U1WB should not have to sign "/" when they operate from their fixed, home
> location. They should be either considered a separate "country" or lumped
> in with 4U1UN with both counting as "UN" Similarly, 4U1VIC could be lumped
> in with 4U1ITU. These are artificial entities anyway and I think it would
> enhance the fun of the contests. Who has not experienced the thrill of
> working the "4U1" prefix followed by the let down of it not being a
> multiplier?
>
> Chuck W5PR
>
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 7:38 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
>
> > I could be wrong but I thought 4U1WB could only operate at the world bank
> > location and 4U1UN from the UN Building in NY. I do not know if 4u1ITU
> is
> > locked in to a specific location in EU.
> >
> > Thank you for reconsidering and reinstating the log and fixing the broken
> > rules!
> >
> > W0MU
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/27/2017 1:02 PM, Terry Zivney wrote:
> >
> >> Why was 4U1WB Disqualified in the CQ WPX Contest?
> >>
> >> As Masa, AJ3M, noted in his posting about the
> >> disqualification of 4U1WB in the 2017 CQ WPX SSB
> >> contest, I informed him that:
> >>
> >> "4U1WB violated rule V.C.2:
> >>
> >> 2. Special event, commemorative, and other unique prefix stations are
> >> encouraged to participate. Prefixes must be assigned by the licensing
> >> authority of the country of operation.
> >>
> >> 4U1 is not assigned by the FCC, the licensing authority of the USA,
> which
> >> is
> >> what the log of 4U1WB showed as the country of operation."
> >>
> >> *********
> >>
> >> The WPX contest rule cited clearly states that the callsign must be
> >> assigned
> >> by the licensing authority. The FCC did not assign the callsign, and
> >> has no authority to issue 4U1WB callsigns. Thus, the station did not
> >> operate in compliance with the existing contest rules.
> >>
> >> Since 4U1 prefixes can be in multiple countries, rule V.C.1 would also
> >> apply.
> >> The DXCC list includes 4U1UN and 4U1ITU as separate entities. So, the
> 4U1
> >> prefix does not denote the country of operation. This rule states:
> >>
> >> "A station operating from a DXCC entity different from that indicated
> >> by its call sign is required to sign portable." Because the 4U1WB
> callsign
> >> does not reflect the DXCC entity of USA, it is required to sign
> portable.
> >>
> >> I did not write these rules, but was charged with interpreting and
> >> enforcing them.
> >>
> >> *********
> >>
> >> Why was 4U1WB disqualified in 2017 but not in prior years?
> >>
> >> I cannot answer why 4U1WB was not disqualified previously. However, I
> >> can state that my practice, as I believe is true of most contest
> >> directors,
> >> is to focus most of my attention on the larger scores. 4U1WB's score
> >> was less than 1 percent of the highest score in his category, so it
> >> was not eyeballed earlier.
> >>
> >> I was proofreading the line scores and top scores boxes for the CQ WPX
> SSB
> >> contest shortly before CQ's submission deadline. These scores change
> >> every
> >> day as new logs are received. I try to let this process continue as long
> >> as
> >> possible to ensure the most accurate log checking. While doing the
> >> proofreading,
> >> I noticed 4U1WB/3 listed in a top scores box. This seemed odd, so I
> looked
> >> further. Was this 4U3 or 4U1/W3? What did he send? Reference to his log
> >> showed he sent 4U1WB and was located in MDC so it was obviously in the
> >> USA.
> >> This resulted in my checking the rules about portable callsigns and the
> >> rest is history.
> >>
> >> *********
> >>
> >> I will change the WPX rule V.C.2 for 2018 to reflect a new and improved
> >> wording, "Prefixes must be issued or permitted by the licensing
> >> authority of the country of operation."
> >>
> >> This revised rule will fit the case of 4U1WB, who has a letter from the
> >> US Department of State saying that the licensing authority (FCC) has no
> >> problem with this operation.
> >>
> >> I don't believe it was wrong for me to enforce the published rules. The
> >> fact that all published rules have not been (and maybe even are not)
> >> always
> >> enforced does not mean that they can safely be ignored.
> >>
> >> As an example, the CQWW contest has always had a rule that the exchange
> >> includes the zone, yet for many years the directors of the CQWW
> >> did not penalize operators for incorrectly reporting the exchange.
> >> Indeed, one of the former directors published an article in CQ Contest
> >> magazine saying that the exchange would not be checked! Yet, in recent
> >> years
> >> the exchange has been checked and operators penalized for incorrectly
> >> recording the exchange. No advance notice was given of this change in
> >> practice. It was always in the rules and now the rules are enforced.
> >>
> >> **********
> >>
> >> Resolution of problem
> >>
> >> 1) Rule V.C.2 will be clarified for the 2018 WPX contest as noted above
> >> 2) In the spirit of good sportsmanship, the 4U1WB 2017 logs will be
> >> removed
> >> from disqualified status and his corrected scores entered in our online
> >> databases.
> >> 3) An errata will be posted on the CQWPX.com website
> >>
> >> I am so sorry that this experience caused Masa grief. I respect
> >> both Masa and his contest club. I meant no disrespect to either Masa
> >> or his contest club over this situation.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Terry N4TZ, CQ WPX Contest Director
> >>
> >> This message was posted at 1701 UTC, October 27, 2017
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