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Re: [CQ-Contest] Disqualified callsigns - CQ WW SSB contest.

To: Steve London <n2ic@arrl.net>, Tom Haavisto <kamham69@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Disqualified callsigns - CQ WW SSB contest.
From: Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 01:07:29 +0000
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I was in this situation and I just logged them and moved on.

Who am I to know the rules in someone else's country?

Ria
N2RJ
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:02 PM Tom Haavisto <kamham69@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to hear your thoughts on the following:
>
> In the past, I have been operating below 14.150, knowing full well this is
> not a U.S. phone allocation.  A U.S. stations calls me.  I tell him he is
> out of the band.  He *insists* on a QSO.  I tell him again - "you are out
> of the band".  He won't go away until I give him a report.  I do, and he
> goes away.  I did not log the QSO, and a few weeks later I get a QSL card
> "Thanks for the QSO".  I returned the card with a "Sorry - not in log"
> comment.
>
> I raised this issue at CTU with a number of contesters and was told "Work
> 'em, and move on", which is what I now do.  In looking at other folks logs,
> I see they also do this as well.
>
> A few years ago, a EU station was on 14.149 calling CQ, and I told him he
> should move above 14.150 if he wanted to work U.S. stations.  He indicated
> he knew he was below the (U.S.) part of the band, but above 14.150 was
> full, and this was his best chance of making *any* QSO's.
>
>
> What would *you* suggest?  Keeping in mind that I *can* operate below
> 14.150 in a phone contest.
>
> Tom - VE3CX
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > One of those DQed is a YB who made about 50 QSO's, and may not even
> > understand what self-spotting is. But the worst that happens to a USA
> > contester, who knowingly or carelessly works stations out-of-band, is
> that
> > he/she loses the QSO and gets a slap on the wrist.
> >
> > That's simply a message to USA contesters that, in the future, they have
> > nothing to lose (except possibly the QSO) if they work stations
> out-of-band.
> >
> >
> > Steve, N2IC
> >
> >
> > On 04/13/2017 03:50 AM, w5ov@w5ov.com wrote:
> >
> > Out of band:  Most out of band qsos were disallowed for those who were
> out
> >> of band for the QSO in question – this was applied globally.  Often, one
> >> party is legal on a frequency, another is not.  Those who operated out
> of
> >> their band were penalized and given no credit for those qsos / mults.
> No
> >> one was DQed for this offense regardless of country / zone etc.  Some
> who
> >> exhibited excessive carelessness about this matter were given formal
> >> warnings.
> >>
> >
> > Along with the other absurdities, the thought that USA / VE was given any
> >> favor is again completely without any merit.
> >>
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