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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] what is required of recevied audio, and whay will it show?
From: Peter Bowyer <peter@bowyer.org>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 15:33:48 +0000
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Good points Steve and RT. I suspect the observed pattern of mults
worked might be distinguishable from someone following cluster spots,
though - but what do I know, I'm guessing.

Peter G4MJS

On 9 March 2017 at 14:57, RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Yes, even when unassisted there is no need to "turn the knob" to tune in 
> stations on the second radio. There is also no need to ever tune sequentially 
> (the first pass up or down a band Steve mentions) to identify signals 
> manually. Sometimes I do tune with the 2nd radio knob, but with so2sdr 
> (available since 2010) I can just click on the signal and jump there 
> directly. Or press the ctrl+arrow keys to automatically tune the second radio 
> to the next higher or lower signal.
>
> TorN4OGW
>
>     On Thursday, March 9, 2017 7:30 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
>  Thanks to modern, and allowed, unassisted technology, it's not that simple.
>
> A competent, unassisted, operator will manually fill in the bandmap
> going up (or down) the band, filling in callsigns as they go. There is
> now software, such as NaP3 or Waterfall Bandmap, which superimpose a
> waterfall or spectrum display on the bandmap. After the operator does a
> pass up (or down) the band, each waterfall or spectrum trace will have a
> callsign associated with it. A good, unassisted, operator will keep an
> eye on the waterfall or spectrum trace, When a new trace appears,
> without a callsign associated with it, the unassisted operator can
> simply mouse-click on the trace, and send the radio to that frequency.
> No need to tune a second VFO or radio using the "big knob". Listening to
> a recording, this will be indistinguishable from a spotting-assisted
> operator.
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
>
> On 03/08/2017 04:24 PM, Peter Bowyer wrote:
>> It would likely show all of those things. It should be easy to spot the
>> difference between assisted and unassisted operation with a full recording.
>> Since the requirement is for all audio that the operator can hear, the
>> process of tuning a second  VFO or second radio looking for mults whilst
>> CQing on the first should be discernable.
>>
>> Of course there can be some confusion sometimes. One or two slightly
>> doubtful quick fire mults would not arouse suspicion. But patterns become
>> easy to spot.
>>
>> Peter G4MJS
>>
>> On 8 Mar 2017 11:15 p.m., "Jamie WW3S" <ww3s@zoominternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it required to show all the receive audio, even when tuning, etc, or
>>> just the actual qso?
>>>
>>> will it show, for example, if a station claiming no assistance was in the
>>> middle of a good run, and qsy’d 20 kc or more to work one station, a new
>>> mult, and then came back on the run freq?
>>>
>>> would a show a station that shut down for the night one one freq, and then
>>> then next morning worked three new, rare mults all on different frequencies
>>> before starting a run of his own?
>>>
>>> would it show that he/she was on, lets say, 28.435 for one new mult, tuned
>>> down 10 kc in a minute for another, and then tuned up to 28.535 for yet
>>> another new one? would it show all that tuning time (even though its only a
>>> minute) and would it show tuning past other stations just to get to the
>>> mults?
>>>
>>> since I never heard any contest recordings this inquiring mind wants to
>>> know.....
>>>
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