I find it interesting how a few non- or barely active contesters, like
K0HB, always stir up such a ruckus with a contrarian view.
Barry W2UP
On 1/7/2017 13:46, John Dorr wrote:
Hi Steve,
In response to your request for an example: UT5UGR
http://cqww.com/blog/ut5ugr-log-padding-in-cq-ww/
Speaking purely as a private citizen, I can assure you that no log checking
group has achieved perfection. All log checkers can benefit from an outside
set of eyes to: 1) vet checking errors and 2) identify bad actors that
remain undetected. We got real lucky in the case of UGR, whose years of
cheating would have gone without penalty had it not been for the
availability of open logs.
Keep this in perspective guys; you're not being asked to post your tax
returns or brokerage statements.
73, John, K1AR
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 3:28 PM, <steve.root@culligan4water.com> wrote:
The crux of the matter of course is what actually constitutes an
actiionable "issue". I'd like to see a clear cut example of a discrepancy
in a log that would lead to an action by the contest sponsor....a
discrepany that wasn't found by normal log checking procedures. Anything
else has a high probability of being a witch hunt. False accusaions of
cheating will lead to acrimony.
73 Steve K0SR
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I had the same uneasy feeling, Hans.It sounded like a call for the
'vigilantes' to go to work.If some 'issue' is found, it has to be dealt
with of course, but the approach to achieve this was not the best.73 de
Vince, VA3VFOn 2017-01-06 10:37 PM, kzerohb@gmail.com wrote:> Doug, this
is possibly the most disturbing message that I have ever seen on this
reflector.>> Essentially you, wearing your “Director of CQWW” hat, have
gone out to the worldwide fraternity of Amateur Radio sportsmen and
said…..>> “Hey, guys, here are the logs of everybody who played in this
Amateur Radio contest. Would you please be a good citizen and have a look
to see if you can find some cheaters among your fellow hams in there. We
look forward to your result, Comrades. Here’s a special mailbox.”>> I
really wanted to help MWA in the club competition, so I sent in a small
log. Probably too small to worry you about, but have a look anyhow. Because
it’s the last one I’ll submit.>> 73, de Hans, KØHB> "Just a boy and his
radio"™>> From: kr2q@optimum.net> Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 2:09
AM> To: cq-contest@contesting.com> Subject: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 2016 SSB
logs now public>>> Please see http://cqww.com/publiclogs/2016ph/>> For
the last two years, the contest community has used the public logs to
assist the CQWW Contest Committee in finding possible “issues” with some of
the logs. We look forward to your feedback again this year.>> You may send
your findings and concerns to: questions@cqww.com>> Please base your
findings and concerns on an actual log review and not simply on your
suspicions.>> Thank
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