"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun." (katherine Hepburn)
2015-05-26 0:28 GMT+02:00 Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net>:
> The proposed rule says: "Stations competing for World and Continent awards
> must provide actual frequencies for all contacts in the log."
>
> This rule will apply to about 50-75 stations on each mode.
>
> That leaves about 8000 entries on each mode that can keep doing what they
> are doing.
>
> Option 2: "All entries are encouraged to provide actual frequencies for
> all
> contacts in the log."
>
> The members of the CQWWCC are not stupid or uncaring. We understand things
> happen and not everyone is using the latest gear. We still type in every
> paper log that we receive. We want people to participate in the contest,
> have fun, and measure their skills by submitting a log. Including
> frequencies is helpful for the log checking, but that's it. Help us by
> including frequencies if you can.
>
> Fun! It's that thing that happens when you use wireless to magically talk
> to someone far away.
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > John Laney
> > Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 9:37 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Proposed Rules
> >
> > On 5/25/2015 2:23 PM, Joe wrote:
> > > Not having a radio that tells my logger N1MM my frequencies I guess
> > > I'm screwed?
> > > Also just for the fun of it. I just made 2 bogus contacts using the
> > > logger for next weekend and on qso I entered in the window 21032 and
> > > the logger took it fine and even as usual thinks CW and then made
> > > another one that I told it the freq is 21046, this is what it spit
> > > out in the cabrillo file.
> > >
> > > CREATED-BY: N1MM Logger+ 1.0.4905.0
> > > QSO: 21000 CW 2015-05-22 0229 WB9SBD 599 0001 K9SB 599 0001
> > > QSO: 21000 CW 2015-05-25 1816 WB9SBD 599 0002 KA9CHM 599 0008
> > > END-OF-LOG:
> > >
> > > Now would having a radio that actually tells the program what freq I'm
> > > on would it change the 21000 to the real freq?
> > >
> > > Joe WB9SBD
> > >
> > > On 5/25/2015 8:38 AM, w2lc@twcny.rr.com wrote:
> > >> CQWW rules changes
> > >>
> > >> The Good
> > >> 1) SO non-assisted
> > >> 2) classic category
> > >> 3) club circle change - I may be able to join a real contest club
> > now
> > >>
> > >> The Bad
> > >> 1) exact frequencies - non-compliance means you are a check log.
> > >> "A log without all required information may be reclassified to check
> > >> log"
> > >> 2) no audio = DQ. "provide a complete recording of the contest
> > >> operation audio as heard by the operator. Failure to do so may result
> > >> in the entry being disqualified"
> > >> 3) 5 day log deadline
> > >>
> > >> So before I even turn on my radio I am either a check log and
> > >> possibly DQed, if I score well enough. With a serious effort I will
> > >> be a check log at best. Gee thanks
> > >>
> > >> Questions I wish Randy would answer
> > >> 1) How many do not log exact frequencies? this can be derived from
> > >> the logs
> > >> 2) How many record the audio? Randy does this anyone else?
> > >> 3) How many miss the 5 day deadline?
> > >>
> > >> KE3X said "If you want to retain SOAB Unassisted and have results
> > >> that mean something, then logging the frequency for each QSO and
> > >> recording your effort is the price of admission".
> > >>
> > >> Be careful what you ask for. If these rules are implemented and
> > >> followed here is what may happen
> > >>
> > >> No exact frequencies = check log exactly why I do not operate RDXC
> > >> No audio recording = DQ
> > >> Not everyone has the two capabilities mentioned above or wants to go
> > >> through the trouble.
> > >>
> > >> These two rules relegate 99% to the status of participant since they
> > >> are no longer considered a competitive entry (for not complying)
> > >>
> > >> Kind of like being a walker in the Boston marathon or a 5k
> > >>
> > >> I am actually training for a 5k, a lot of similarities to radio
> > contests
> > >> various categories, wide variety of different people involved,
> > >> various levels of competitiveness
> > >>
> > >> But unlike radio contesting,
> > >> if I win my category I will not be a checklog because I used last
> > >> year's sneakers And I don't have to supply a video of my run
> > >>
> > >> The exact frequency and recording rules are punishing the many due to
> > >> the cheating of a few. The contest committee may have won the battle
> > >> but may be losing the war by declaring 99% to be ineligible before
> > >> the contest even starts.
> > >>
> > >> So Dink, how about I fly out to Seattle and you and I go out to
> > >> dinner on November 28 and reminisce about the good old times. That
> > >> seafood place on the waterfront looks good
> > >>
> > >> 73 Scott W2LC
> > >>
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> > >> mystified why some versions of N1MM seem to do what Joe says about
> > >> changing the manually entered frequencies to 000 when the Cabrillo
> > >> file is created. I am looking at a Cabrillo log for this year's FL
> > >> QSO Party for W4AN/M. We had RFI problems and, after the first few
> > >> minutes, we lost rig control. Every time we chanaged bands, we
> > >> entered the exact frequency. We made only a few S&P QSOs.
> > >> The Cabrillo file shows the frequency we enetered as our run
> > >> frequency each time we changed bands. This was some version of N1MM
> > >> and was not N1MM+. If this is some improvement that has been made to
> > >> N1MM+, someone should correct it back to what it did for us in FQP.
> > >> 73, John, K4BAI.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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