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Re: [CQ-Contest] DX Contest scoring schemes

To: "Larry Gauthier (K8UT)" <k8ut@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] DX Contest scoring schemes
From: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 17:05:40 -0700 (PDT)
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Why are you handicapping us old coots?




I'm 75 next week.  Your formula gives a 37 year old guy a 6dB+ advantage over 
me.




Oh wait!  I get that advantage over him!  




Awesome idea!




73, de Hans, K0HB

"Just an Old Fart and His Radio"™









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On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Larry Gauthier (K8UT) <K8UT@charter.net>
wrote:

> I think we should take the raw contest score and divide by the following 
> formula:
> ( AHSL + DxSW + NuEl) / ( PoWt + SsAi * (2Pi * OpAg) )
> Where:
>     AHSL = Antenna Height Above Sea Level ( in meters)
>     DxSW = Distance to nearest body of salt water (in kilometers) exception: 
> Utah residents
>     SSAi = Sunspot A index at time of contact
>     PoWt = Power output in watts
>     NuEl = Number of antenna elements on this band
>     OpAg = Operator's age in years
>     Pi = Pi to 4 decimal places, 3.1416 (all good formulas need Pi in them 
> somewhere)
> -larry (K8UT)
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Richard F DiDonna NN3W
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:40 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] DX Contest scoring schemes
> There are all sorts of grievances that one can lodge on scoring. Let's
> see, station in W4 works station in W6 (2400 miles).  Points awarded - 0
> Station in PA works station in DL (228 miles).  Points awarded - 1
> Station in VE3 works station in W3 (347 miles).  Points awarded - 2
> On and on and on.
> 73 Rich NN3W
> On 5/27/2015 8:56 AM, Mike Tessmer wrote:
>> Let's see some real data to back up these proposals.  CQWW logs are 
>> available.  Crunch the numbers and publish the results.
>>
>> 73, Mike K9NW
>>
>>
>>
>> K9YC wrote:
>>> I made several specific suggestions that had NOTHING to do with 
>>> distance-based scoring. Why no response? One involved >redefining what 
>>> constitutes a multiplier in ways that significantly reduce the disparity 
>>> between regions. No one in the >contesting establishment wants to talk 
>>> about it because THEY lose part of their advantage.
>>>
>>> I proposed a regional handicap system where each score is adjusted based 
>>> on how well the contesters in his region did compared >to all regions. No 
>>> one in the contesting establishment wants to talk about this either, 
>>> because they lose another part of >their contesting advantage.
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