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Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed contest rules

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Proposed contest rules
From: W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 10:42:09 -0600
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In the day of the pencil I think many of us had to go over the logs to make them legible! I doubt the logs were poured over as much as they are now but would doing this be a rule violation today?

When so many people have issues with the way the rules are written, we do have a problem.

How are we to judge the writing of a rule when we don't have a clue what they are trying to stop.

The process is broken, so we get rules that people clearly do not understand.

K5ZD hit the nail on the head with the dual decoders. It probably exists today and will only get better and better down the road. Decoding software seems to be taking giant leaps and bounds.

On 5/23/2015 9:42 PM, KQ2O via CQ-Contest wrote:
Personally I have never understood why the rules (or before rules, the 
opinions) treat post contest (let alone during contest) editing of logs before 
submission as a no-no. not talking about padding of course, but correcting 
typos. I always thought the contest was about how many folks you could work as 
well as multipliers and related strategy - NOT about your typing skills. Seems 
to me if you notice an error in your log after the contest (or during), you 
should fix it so it conforms to what you actually did during the contest, who 
you REALLY worked or the REAL exchange, not leave the wrong info in the log.

besides affecting your score, plus penalties, failure to fix a simple logging 
error also penalizes the guy on the other side of the qso who did nothing 
wrong! he/she gets a NIL + penalty.

as for recording the contest, seems to me we are going way overboard on "security". this 
is a fun hobby not a life and death operation. can't help but think this comes from the TO7A 
debacle. I think imposing another requirement on very many contesters when only a very few are 
cheaters is foolish, especially since the cheaters always find workarounds - e.g. excess power, 
remote receivers, etc., none of which are detectable, ordinarily, to continue on their ways. 
probably will figure out how to workaround the recording as well. would make much more sense to 
impose stronger "punishment" when someone is caught cheating - e.g. TO7A type cheater 
should be banned for life from all contests run by same sponsor (and maybe other sponsors would 
;piggyback), and have any prior submissions retroactively DQed, and records expunged. lesser 
offenses would have appropriate penalties.

as an aside, seems like the log reviewers are very expert at what they are 
doing even without recordings, and have developed fine technology to detect 
rule breaking. they are to be commended.

Hank  KF2O
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