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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW CW check logs

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW CW check logs
From: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 07:12:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Except for the top 2%, every log is a check log.




Dit Dit




73, de Hans, K0HB

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let me clarify with an example:
> SM7XYZ makes good QSO's with 10 stations, including, for example, W1EBI. 
> The submitted logs of all 10 stations show a QSO with SM7XYZ.
> SM7XYZ does not like W1EBI. Before submitting his checklog, he removes 
> the QSO with W1EBI from his log. The other 9 QSO's remain in SM7XYZ's 
> checklog.
> A score is never calculated for SM7XYZ, since it was a checklog. 
> However, SM7XYZ's checklog is included in the log checking process. 
> Since the QSO with W1EBI is not in SM7XYZ's checklog, W1EBI gets a NIL 
> against his log.
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
> On 05/03/2015 06:45 PM, George Harlem wrote:
>> Can that really happen?  I've never understood why there are so many NILs, 
>> including from fairly skilled ops. But if a checklog is not included in the 
>> competition, why would a QSO with that SM not simply be classified as a 
>> Unique?  Never heard of a "NICL"--not in checklog.
>>
>> George W1EBI
>>
>>  From George's iPhone
>>
>>> On May 3, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 05/03/2015 08:01 AM, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
>>>> The concept of CHECKLOG has existed for many years.  It is a log that is 
>>>> submitted to help the log checking process, but the entrant does not want 
>>>> their score to be included in the results.
>>>
>>> As I have learned, Checklogs can be used for nefarious purposes. In 
>>> particular, there is a Swedish operator who works many people in the 
>>> contest, but then deletes calls from his log if he does not think you are a 
>>> good QSLer. This results in the deleted stations getting NIL's in their 
>>> logs (and the associated penalties), while the Swedish stations' log 
>>> remains completely hidden. Checklogs have not been included in the database 
>>> of open logs.
>>>
>>> Frankly, I think Checklogs should be eliminated. Either send in your log 
>>> for scoring, or don't send in a log at all.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Steve, N2IC
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