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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Scoring System needs revision?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Scoring System needs revision?
From: "Rick Kiessig" <kiessig@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 08:53:23 +1300
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Easy: scores are all based on short-path only.

Of course there are vagaries of propagation. This is just a scoring system, not 
a measurement system.

The goal is to get the EU and US masses to point their antennas away from each 
other and out toward the rest of the world for more than just a single QSO per 
zone or DXCC. The goal is not to differentiate between LP and SP, or other 
modes of propagation. If it helps, you could actually think of LP contacts as 
bonus points: you were able to contact that distant location when SP paths were 
closed. More points!

I'm against correction factors, except perhaps by band, to encourage people to 
spread out and not jam 20m wall-to-wall.

With distance-based scoring, I'm confident we will find as much or more travel 
to DX locations -- it's just that the particular spots chosen will be different 
-- and it will take some time to discover the best ones. I consider those 
things to be good for the sport, not bad.

73, Rick ZL2HAM / ZM1G


-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of brian 
coyne
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:16 AM
To: Martin , LU5DX
Cc: cq contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Scoring System needs revision?

So Martin how are you going to score all of my morning long path qso's with 
central and South America, you could throw in JA too. Short path distances can 
hardly be used when the contacts are clearly long path.

Distance scoring does have merit for Stew Perry which is 160mtrs and there 
would be a case for 80mtrs too but the higher bands are too subject to the 
vagaries of propagation. 


It is clear that southern hemisphere stations are at a disadvantage on the 
lower bands, and on the higher bands too during low sunspot years. There may 
well be a case for allowing more points to those stations on the lower bands 
but where could the line be drawn when parts of  those zones and countries are 
north side of the equator?

Few would argue that the present scoring system is fair to all entrants. 
Clearly there are favoured areas but  how many fewer travelers would there be 
to some of those rarer dx countries, causing a reduction in available mults if 
scoring advantages were removed, travelers tend to be serious guys who want to 
win rather than visit for fun.

There is no easy solution, despite suggestions we have seen here some which, 
prima facie,  look as though they could be workable fail  to be viable when 
given further scrutiny. I doubt that CQWW CC can be persuaded to make any 
changes, it is as it is, and, as more than 14,000 of us have been content to 
enter and submit logs in the two events this year showing an ongoing increase 
year to year the CC will feel under no obligation to make any changes.

With regard to southern hemisphere scoring, for what it is worth, the RSGB 
Commonwealth Contest, one of the oldest contests on the calendar, has made an 
effort to address the imbalances of contact availabilities  for Oceania, 
Southern Africa etc for their team competition   which has been successful in 
it's objective of providing a more level playing field and encouraged more 
participation from those areas. The method is described in the exert below 
taken from the rules.

<i>(a) The team score is the sum of individual adjudicated scores, with all 
stations located in the southern hemisphere or on the equator having their 
final score multiplied by a “latitude factor”.
(b) The “latitude factor” will be re-calculated each year based on published 
scores: for each hemisphere, the highest-scoring team total for each of the 
last three years will be used to give an overall total and the factor will be 
calculated as the ratio of the northern to the southern grand totals rounded 
down to the nearest two decimal places.</i>

73  Brian 5B4AIZ / C4Z.


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