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Re: [CQ-Contest] [NCCC] Have NCCC and PVRC ruined SS?

To: artboyars@gmail.com, haddon.bill@gmail.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [NCCC] Have NCCC and PVRC ruined SS?
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:53:49 -0500 (EST)
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An half full/half empty glass observation:
 
Why are there so few MD stations in the NCJ Sprint?
 
And how did I miss Virginia in the last one?
 
The CW Sprint is coming up tomorrow, hint, hint . . .
 
 
73  -  Jim  K8MR
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/31/2013 5:07:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
artboyars@gmail.com writes:

Bill,

An interesting analysis.  I'm taking the liberty  of including it with my
reply here on the CQ-Contest Reflector (even though  you sent only to me and
NCCC).

My impression is that the high  participation of NCCC/PVRC is
noticeable.  Some anecdotal data  --  Somewhere in an SS Soapbox or 3830
Reflector post (I think in  2011), there are comments about all the MDC/VA
stations. I've heard similar  comments even during the SS ("Another MDC.
There sure are a lot of you  guys.").  I think the "Rare Sections" lists in
the ARRL reports shows  VA and MD tops in QSOs.

My question is: Does it make SS less fun for  everybody else? Still no
replies from them.

Below my sig are some  data I dug out.  Below that is your analysis.

73, Art  K3KU

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I  was thinking mostly about 2012.  From the score rumors (based on  3830
Reflector postings) it seemed that PVRC was way ahead, and there was  some
curiosity here that maybe you guys had not made a serious  effort.  The Club
Scores in ARRL's preliminary report for SS 'Phone  sure looked that way.
(These include CW and 'Phone, right?)


2012  Unlimited Category                 Points               Entries

Potomac Valley Radio Club         20,112,044             267
Northern California Contest Club    8,116,740     107


But wait!  Maybe PVRC just had  a super-duper turnout in 2012.  So I looked
back a couple of  years.

2011

Potomac Valley Radio Club         22,897,542       291

Northern  California Contest Club      14,750,346     189



2010

Potomac Valley Radio Club       21,489,580        273

Northern  California Contest Club    20,159,038       286



2009

Potomac Valley Radio Club       24,356,974         302

Northern California Contest Club    22,712,498   332



Looks like a downward trend in entries by both  Clubs from 2009 to 2012. (I
took enough short courses in statistics and  enough courses in probability
to know that I have no idea what this data  means.)
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On  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Bill Haddon <haddon.bill@gmail.com>  
wrote:

> Let's look at some actual numbers to assess the extent to  which NCCC's 
not
> highlighting Sweepstakes influenced the Sweepstakes,  over-all:
>
> For 2011 (one of the years cited by the K3KU  message):
>
> Total points in Sweepstakes  CW:   ~85,000,000
>         Points from PVRC:    10,113,000
>         Points from NCCC:    7,970,000
>
> Suppose NCCC had emphasized SS and that NCCC tied  PVRC:
>     Increase in Sweepstakes scores under this  scenario:     ~2.6% of 
total
> SS CW  points.
>
> It does appear that NCCC contributed a bit less in  2012 (can't tell 
easily
> since the CW and Phone scores are not  individually summed in the NCCC
> database), but I'd guess NCCC  generated about 6,000,000 CW points (but 
many
> members' scores went to  MLDXCC).  So there might be about a 5% impact on
> overall  Sweepstakes activity from our failure to stress the Sweepstakes 
in
>  2012.  A relatively small effect.
>
> 73 Bill  n6zfo

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