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Re: [CQ-Contest] Russian DX Contest Log Checking

To: "'Mark Beckwith'" <n5ot@n5ot.com>, <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Russian DX Contest Log Checking
From: "Sandy Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 02:09:35 -0500
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Hi Mark,
While it is something that has not, as far as I know, been adhered to as a
standard, a look at the ARRL rules, at least, shows that a QSO only takes
place when the callsigns and exchange information has been sent, received,
logged and acknowledged accurately by both parties.

>From the ARRL General Rules:

3. General Rules: 

3.1.All operators must observe the limitations of their operator licenses
and station licenses at all times. 
3.2.All callsigns and exchange information must be sent, received,
acknowledged and logged correctly by each station for a complete QSO.

So it would not be a stretch for the League to bust QSOs based on logging
inaccuracies by one operator regardless of whether the other operator knew
about the bust. But from what I can tell, if you claim to have worked Dave
at 0124Z and in the 6Y1V log at 0124Z is N5MT, and there is no N5MT claiming
to have worked Dave at the same time, you get credit for the Q, Dave loses
the Q. Similarly, if he logs you as AK and not OK, you keep it, he loses it.

That the rule has not been enforced does not, in my mind, mean it is not a
reasonable explanation of what is expected by both parties in a QSO.

73, Kelly
Ve4xt







-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mark Beckwith
Sent: March-10-09 9:11 PM
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Russian DX Contest Log Checking

I got emailed privately by two ops who said "it ain't a contest QSO unless 
both sides log it correctly."  I didn't see their posts here on the 
reflector.  I don't agree with those two ops.

I suppose there is a case for that, "accuracy is a two way street" and all 
that, but life is too short to get penalized for something you didn't do and

were not aware of, when the concurrent emphasis is on amassing the biggest 
score.  I would say the jury is in: a large majority of radio contests don't

do what the Russian DX Contest does.  The only other one I can think of off 
the top of my head is the hugely popular KCJ contest.  Most sponsors have 
figured out that it discourages participation.

Blind Fencing, anyone?

Mark, N5OT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:06 AM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Russian DX Contest Log Checking


> The Russian DX Contest (www.rdxc.org) is one of my favorite contests. 

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