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Re: [CQ-Contest] QSY etiquette (NAQP)

To: Art Boyars <art.boyars@verizon.net>, ke1fo@arrl.net
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] QSY etiquette (NAQP)
From: Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: phriendly1@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:03:17 -0700 (PDT)
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One thing is missing from all of these...

Which contest are you in?? 

Your approach most likely will depend on the contest, a state QSO Party would 
be different than SS and CQ WW DX would be different from SS.

Adapt or die ;o)

Julius Fazekas
N2WN

Tennessee Contest Group
TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/



--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Alfred Frugoli <ke1fo@arrl.net> wrote:

> From: Alfred Frugoli <ke1fo@arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] QSY etiquette (NAQP)
> To: "Art Boyars" <art.boyars@verizon.net>
> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 5:44 PM
> All of these answers sound great.  So much of this answer is
> dependent upon
> your specific station setup and contest strategy that
> it's very hard to give
> an answer.  Here's my HO on what to think about when
> making this decision.
> 
> 
>    - What's your mult total on 15?  If you need mults
> on that band, a trip
>    there might be in order and CQing for THEM might be a
> good strategy.
>    - How serious about this contest and scoring well?  Do
> you careif your
>    rate drops because you start CQing on the
> "wrong" band?
>    - Should you even say yes?
>    - Do you need THEM as a mult on 15? somewhere else? 
> Maybe after you nab
>    them on 15, you should see if they'll go to 20 for
> you.
>    - What's your rate like on the current band?  might
> you be able to do
>    better on 15?  If so maybe move your S&P operation
> to that band if cqing
>    doesn't work after working N2MM.
>    - What's your mult total on the current band?  might
> you be more likely
>    to pick up more mults on 15?  Maybe you should direct
> some effort towards 15
>    and CQ there.
>    - What's your station setup?  Can you continue to
> S&P on the current band
>    while you work THEM on another rig/antenna?
>    - Can you run on that 2nd rig/antenna? (maybe the 2nd
> rig is barefoot to
>    a vertical)
>    - Is the MUF going up or down at this point in the day?
>    - Do you need other mults on 15 in the general vicinity
> of the guy who
>    asked you to move?  If you can work them, maybe you can
> work others (i.e. if
>    you need RI on 15, and you can work CT it might be worth
> looking more
>    seriously at S&P or running on 15)
>    - Are you in the assisted category - if so check the
> spots to see what
>    activity is like on 15.
> 
> Two things to remember.
> 
> 
>    1. N2MM has found a clear frequency on 15 where he can
> send folks.  If
>    you start CQing you put the end to that.  But, it's
> not really "his"
>    frequency anyhow.
>    2. N2MM has found you a clear frequency on 15M.  if
> you're thinking of
>    moving there anyhow, your work is done for you!
> 
> How I decide to contact the guy who asks me to move depends
> greatly on these
> factors above and many others as well.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> 73 de Al, KE1FO
> 
> -----
> Visit my amateur radio contesting blog at
> ke1fo.wordpress.com.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Julius Fazekas
> <phriendly1@yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
> > I'd agree with you Dick... calling CQ is worth the
> effort, you never know
> > who was listening and following and you're there
> anyway... go for it, you
> > could open a whole new front ;o)
> >
> > 73,
> > Julius
> >
> > Julius Fazekas
> > N2WN
> >
> > Tennessee Contest Group
> > TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/
> >
> > Elecraft K2/100 #3311
> > Elecraft K2/100 #4455
> > Elecraft K3/100 #366
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Dick Dievendorff
> <dieven@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Dick Dievendorff <dieven@comcast.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] QSY etiquette (NAQP)
> > > To: "'Art Boyars'"
> <art.boyars@verizon.net>, cq-contest@contesting.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 8:37 AM
> > > When I move I tune quickly to see if the guy is
> already
> > > there so I can
> > > answer him.  Failing that, calling CQ seems like
> a
> > > productive thing to do.
> > > I want to be doing something that helps my score
> and I want
> > > to stay on the
> > > agreed frequency, and I want to advertise my
> presence so
> > > that the guy I'm
> > > moving with can find me, so calling CQ sounds
> like just the
> > > right thing to
> > > do.
> > >
> > > I think you did just the right thing.
> > >
> > > Dick, K6KR
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> > > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Art
> > > Boyars
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:55 AM
> > > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] QSY etiquette (NAQP)
> > >
> > > I was fooling around back in NAQP CW.  Working
> 40M, N2MM
> > > asked me to QSY to
> > > 15M.  OK.  I moved up to the specified freq but I
> did not
> > > know the
> > > etiquette: who calls whom.  I guessed that since
> I was the
> > > askee then I
> > > could have the freq, so I started calling CQ. 
> (It worked,
> > > sort of.  K1ZZ
> > > came back pretty quick.  Then he worked N2MM, who
> was below
> > > ESP level here.)
> > >
> > > Did I do right?  For Single OP askee, what is the
> proper
> > > procedure for this
> > > "pse work me on a new band" QSY?
> > >
> > > 73, Art K3KU
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