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Re: [CQ-Contest] Skimmer for S/O in IARU

To: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv@subich.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Skimmer for S/O in IARU
From: w5ov@w5ov.com
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 13:05:28 -0400 (EDT)
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Joe,

I have to presume that what you state is merely your opinion.

If you are basing what you say on a published definition of the rule, I
would appreciate you providing a reference to where it is published so
that I can review it myself.

I see nothing in the CQ rules that conflicts with or redefines the rule
that I quoted as you are claiming.

73,

Bob W5OV


>> In contrast to your assertion, the published CQWW rules for
>> single operators are very plain where it says:
>>
>> "The use of DX alerting assistance of any kind places the
>> station in the Single Operator Assisted category".
>
> Prior to Skimmer, the only way to detect DX stations other than by
> tuning across them with the main or second receiver was information
> from another human operator.  In the CQ rules, "of any kind" is the
> same as "by any means [of communication]" and was written that way
> to avoid the need to specify packet, internet, FM voice frequencies,
> telephone calls or even another operator in the net room at a club
> site ... and potentially remote receivers.  It was not intended to
> prohibit additional receivers within the operator's station.
>
> Skimmer is no more "DX alerting assistance" than a scanning receiver
> and a CW reader - which have ALWAYS been legal if anyone had bothered
> to implement them.  Skimmer it is a computer controlled scanning
> receiver,
> bandscope and multi-channel CW reader that identifies the calls it hears
> -
> nothing more and nothing less.  The operator must turn on the hardware,
> start the software *AND* look at the screen to see the data just as he
> would need to do with any other CW reader.
>
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Naumann [mailto:w5ov@w5ov.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:32 AM
>> To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV'; 'Stan Stockton'; 'doug smith'
>> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Skimmer for S/O in IARU
>>
>>
>> Joe (W4TV),
>>
>> I would like for you to cite your source for your definition
>> of what assisted means.
>>
>> In contrast to your assertion, the published CQWW rules for
>> single operators are very plain where it says:
>>
>> "The use of DX alerting assistance of any kind places the
>> station in the Single Operator Assisted category".
>>
>> The words "of any kind" encompass anything that might be used
>> to provide assistance to a single operator. There is no
>> distinction between outside of one's station or within one's
>> station. The point is not where it comes from, but instead
>> the point is that there should not be any kind of assistance
>> to a single operator.
>>
>> Skimmer's purpose and intent is to provide DX alerting assistance.
>>
>> You asked:
>>
>> Q: "Where does a computer controlled second receiver located
>> within the 500 meter circle feeding a multiple channel code
>> reader become Assistance"?
>>
>> A: When it provides DX alerting assistance to a single operator.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Bob W5OV
>>
>
>
>
>


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