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Re: [CQ-Contest] Self-spotting,arranged QSO's and the CQ 160 contest

To: "W7TMT" <w7tmt@dayshaw.net>, "'Richard L. King'" <k5na@ecpi.com>,"'CQ Contest'" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self-spotting,arranged QSO's and the CQ 160 contest
From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:24:07 -0600
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
The unsportsmanlike conduct thing is too vague and not needed in this case.

The rules say activity takes place on 160 meters, cw or ssb.

The internet is NOT 160 meters, cw or ssb. Simple.

It's a rule violation. End of story.

73, kelly
ve4xt
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "W7TMT" <w7tmt@dayshaw.net>
To: "'Richard L. King'" <k5na@ecpi.com>; "'CQ Contest'" 
<cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self-spotting,arranged QSO's and the CQ 160 
contest


>
> With all due respect is this not a violation of the "unsportsmanlike
> conduct" item listed under the CW 160 "Disqualification:" paragraph?
>
>
> 73/Patrick
> W7TMT
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Richard L. King
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:28 AM
> To: n2ic@arrl.net; CQ Contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self-spotting, arranged QSO's and the CQ 160
> contest
>
> If you look at the rules for the CQWW 160M Contest, there is nothing in 
> the
> rules about self-spotting, etc. This might be an oversight.
> Actually, the only thing that remotely addresses this action is the
> following:
> Use of packet, a spotting net, or logging assistance makes an entry
> Multi-Operator.
> I looked further, and didn't see any restriction about self spotting in 
> what
> I looked at and read on the CQ Magazine site. The rule above might imply 
> to
> some that the behavior is OK.
>
> That being said, I don't think we can say that this was illegal or 
> unethical
> behavior if there was no rule against it. However, I will agree with Steve
> that it is unacceptable for contesting. I think a rule should be added to
> clearly prohibit this from happening and not allow this form of
> self-spotting, even by multi-op stations.
>
> The 160M Chat web site is there for coordinating weak signal work on 160M
> and it is used mainly by DXers. I don't watch it during contests when I am
> single-op, unassisted. But I will watch it, without sending it comments,
> when I am assisted or multi-op. To me it is no more than watching packet.
>
> I do think that any coordination of QSOs during contests is like
> "self-spotting" and a rule should be added to cover it. Perhaps something
> like, "Emails, Internet chat rooms, web cams that show operating 
> frequency,
> and packet self-spotting should not be used to assist in the manufacture 
> of
> QSOs for the CQWW 160M Contest by any class of entry.
>
> That's my opinion.
>
> Richard - K5NA
>
>
>
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